Jason Wooten

Q: Robotic Static Sounds USB Headset

Issue: When using any USB headset or USB audio input device on any Macintosh with any operating system from 10.5.7 to 10.6.1, after about 10-20 minutes of use, all audio from the headset becomes garbled and has a robotic static sound quality.

Tested with: Dozens of different Macintosh Computers over the last 6 months with different USB headsets and microphone input devices.

Reproducable: Yes, via either Garageband, Ventrilo or a number of other software applications that do USB Audio Input

References:
http://www.ventrilo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37302
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=17367983174&sid=1
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=9983346&#9983346
http://ministryoftruthblog.blogspot.com/2008/10/fixing-usb-audio-static-on-mac-o sx.html
http://forum.skype.com/index.php?s=d9c3718b7185c8e1caee585c248c3bab&showtopic=75 528&st=40

Additional Information and attempted fixes:
• Tried it with a powered USB Hub
• Switched the Audio Midi Setup input to 48k
• Using Audio Midi Setup to create an aggregate device
• Tried it on different Macs, Different Headsets and Different physical locations
• Tried different USB ports

Message was edited by: Jaycyn

Macintosh, Mac OS X (10.6.1)

Posted on Sep 18, 2009 1:23 PM

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  • by Ben Rose,

    Ben Rose Ben Rose Nov 2, 2011 10:23 AM in response to Boomhowler
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    Nov 2, 2011 10:23 AM in response to Boomhowler

    OK, it's not an Apple-only problem. That doesn't mean it's not Apple's fault. The fact that one USB device works only means that the makers of the device figured out a way around Apple's problem. As the comments on this thread have made clear, there are many devices that don't work and only one or two that do.

     

    Like Morph21 said, telling everyone to buy a Griffin iMic isn't a true solution to the problem. I considered buying it, too, but besides the extra cost of the iMic, I would have to buy a new set of non-USB headphones to plug into it, as I currently have just one pair of headphones that happen to be USB.

  • by morph21,

    morph21 morph21 Nov 23, 2011 11:23 AM in response to Spacecadetcraig
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    Nov 23, 2011 11:23 AM in response to Spacecadetcraig

    Well, I just did my bugreport. Took me a while since I was on the move and I wanted to include hardware model numbers and detailed information there.

     

    Now, lets just hope for the best.

  • by Ben Rose,

    Ben Rose Ben Rose Nov 23, 2011 7:21 PM in response to Spacecadetcraig
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    Nov 23, 2011 7:21 PM in response to Spacecadetcraig

    I just got a reply on my bug report:

     

    "After further investigation it has been determined that this is a known issue, which is currently being investigated by engineering.  This issue has been filed in our bug database under the original Bug ID# 7076979. The original bug number being used to track this duplicate issue can be found in the State column, in this format:  Duplicate/OrigBug#."

  • by maclypse,

    maclypse maclypse Dec 2, 2011 12:40 PM in response to Ben Rose
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    Dec 2, 2011 12:40 PM in response to Ben Rose

    I've been looking around to find answers to why both my USB soundcards give me interference from my microphone - and find reports of interference with input from USB audio devices dating back for YEARS.

     

    I've found something funny though, that no one else has mentioned anywhere:

    I can often turn the interference noises on and off by touching the metal on my apple keyboard, or on the metal casing on my mac mini. It's weirder than ****. Does this happens for all of you as well?

     

    Hope something happens some time soon. The mini doesn't have a microphone input, so unless I can get the USB devices to work, my only remaining option will be to find a bloody pre-amp to boost the signal enough to plug a mic through the line-in port.

     

    Frustrating.

  • by drohr,

    drohr drohr Dec 2, 2011 2:51 PM in response to Jason Wooten
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    Dec 2, 2011 2:51 PM in response to Jason Wooten

    After getting this problem a long time with my creative head set, I actually never thought it could be something with the specific hardware. Always thought it was a software issue in MacOSX.

     

    I just happend to dualboot on my Mac Pro, and actually got the exact same issue in Windows 7.

  • by Spacecadetcraig,

    Spacecadetcraig Spacecadetcraig Dec 2, 2011 4:20 PM in response to drohr
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    Dec 2, 2011 4:20 PM in response to drohr

    Most people in this thread don't get the robotic sounds in Windows. Only Mac OS X. You may be having a different issue.

     

    "Static" or "robotic sounds" can be interpreted many different ways. It's possible that some people may be getting some kind of distortion that inst related to software. But, there was a specific change to apple's IOUSB kext driver in 10.5.3 (or thereabouts) that makes this happen. Any OS before that and it's fine.

     

    In fact, the apple rep that was assisting me on the phone (skype via usb mic) was at first like "right...static in your mic eh?..yep - your hardware is the problem.. return your headset" etc etc. After talking with her and submitting lots of info - my mic flipped out during the call (while i was recording it) and then all of a sudden she was like "omg...yeah smething is definitely wrong..let's get this to the engi's!" haha.

     

    Again - it's intermittant - not constant.

     

    And to maclyspe: nope - not a harware / short for most of us. I've tried grounding myself on my mac pro - touching the alluminum on the keyboards, wearing foil on my head.... nothing. Sounds like you have a grounding issue.

  • by morph21,

    morph21 morph21 Dec 16, 2011 8:44 PM in response to Jason Wooten
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    Dec 16, 2011 8:44 PM in response to Jason Wooten

    Well, there we go, posted system profiles, even audio recording sample of the problem. After that, here is the answer:

     

    This is a follow up to Bug ID# 10480800.  After further investigation it has been determined that this is a known issue, which is currently being investigated by engineering.  This issue has been filed in our bug database under the original Bug ID# 10557859. The original bug number being used to track this duplicate issue can be found in the Related Problem section of your bug report's Problem Detail view.

     

    It bothers me that the "original" bug has a bug ID bigger than mine... anyway... that is all I got so far. Mine is closed and I can't follow up on the "original".

  • by Spacecadetcraig,

    Spacecadetcraig Spacecadetcraig Jan 7, 2012 9:39 PM in response to morph21
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    Jan 7, 2012 9:39 PM in response to morph21

    I am in touch with a senior tech support rep who is keeping me posted. Nothing yet.

  • by corylg,

    corylg corylg Jan 25, 2012 8:06 AM in response to Spacecadetcraig
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    Jan 25, 2012 8:06 AM in response to Spacecadetcraig

    I'm having these issues and it is getting extremely frustrating not to be able to use my good microphone / headset as I should be able too.   I'll be calling the applecare line as well.

  • by fakeh,

    fakeh fakeh Jan 29, 2012 12:04 PM in response to corylg
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    Jan 29, 2012 12:04 PM in response to corylg

    I spoke to the people that make the iMic. She contacted their development team and apparently there's zero reason why their hardware wouldn't be effected while other peoples' was. They haven't compensated for this in any way.

  • by Dr_Vex,

    Dr_Vex Dr_Vex Feb 2, 2012 12:29 PM in response to Jason Wooten
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    Feb 2, 2012 12:29 PM in response to Jason Wooten

    Hi everyone,

     

    I'm having the same problem as everyone else here. Unfortunately, I attempted the terminal kext replacement fix before I realized it no longer works with 64 bit machines. Now I simply have no USBAudio driver loaded and my mic isn't recognized at all.

     

    I know all I have to do is restore the new driver from the backup, but I don't know how to do it. Could anyone post terminal instructions for that?

     

    Thanks!

  • by Spacecadetcraig,

    Spacecadetcraig Spacecadetcraig Feb 2, 2012 2:52 PM in response to Dr_Vex
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    Feb 2, 2012 2:52 PM in response to Dr_Vex

    Dr_Vex,

     

    what mac and version of OS X are you running?

  • by Spacecadetcraig,

    Spacecadetcraig Spacecadetcraig Feb 2, 2012 2:54 PM in response to fakeh
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    Feb 2, 2012 2:54 PM in response to fakeh

    @Fakeh

     

    Apparently the issue occurs when any software that is controlign the mic requests a rate / frequency / quality change. Almost all USB mics support this feature - perhaps iMic doesnt have this "switching" feature.

  • by SkottKnoble,

    SkottKnoble SkottKnoble Feb 14, 2012 6:45 PM in response to Spacecadetcraig
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    Feb 14, 2012 6:45 PM in response to Spacecadetcraig

    So we have 10.7.3 and still no solution to the issue of robotic sounds from usb headsets and ventrilo :-/

  • by nicolw,

    nicolw nicolw Feb 19, 2012 9:05 AM in response to SkottKnoble
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    Feb 19, 2012 9:05 AM in response to SkottKnoble

    I have been using Mister Joshuas fix

     

    Yet another confirmation that it is not working on 10.6.5

    I had to do a combination of the fixes here, when trying the first fix I had permissions issues.

    So here's what I did. All in terminal (After un-plugging my USB audio device, of course).

    1. Unload the USB Audio Driver:
    sudo kextunload /System/Library/Extensions/AppleUSBAudio.kext

    2. Backup the newer (but broken) AppleUSBAudio.kext:
    sudo cp /System/Library/Extensions/AppleUSBAudio.kext Documents/AppleUSBAudio.kext.backup

    3. Copy the older (but working) AppleUSBAudio.kext
    sudo cp Downloads/AppleUSBAudio.kext /System/Library/Extensions/AppleUSBAudio.kext

    4. Fix the permissions on the file (I used the -Rv, "R" is for recursive (all subfolders) and the "v" is for verbose, so it tells you what it's doing...)
    sudo chown -Rv root:wheel /System/Library/Extensions/AppleUSBAudio.kext
    4a. You should get an output similar to this:
    /System/Library/Extensions/AppleUSBAudio.kext/Contents/CodeDirectory
    /System/Library/Extensions/AppleUSBAudio.kext/Contents/CodeRequirements
    /System/Library/Extensions/AppleUSBAudio.kext/Contents/CodeResources
    /System/Library/Extensions/AppleUSBAudio.kext/Contents/CodeSignature
    /System/Library/Extensions/AppleUSBAudio.kext/Contents/Info.plist
    /System/Library/Extensions/AppleUSBAudio.kext/Contents/MacOS/AppleUSBAudio
    /System/Library/Extensions/AppleUSBAudio.kext/Contents/MacOS
    /System/Library/Extensions/AppleUSBAudio.kext/Contents/Resources/English.lproj/I nfoPlist.strings
    /System/Library/Extensions/AppleUSBAudio.kext/Contents/Resources/English.lproj
    /System/Library/Extensions/AppleUSBAudio.kext/Contents/Resources
    /System/Library/Extensions/AppleUSBAudio.kext/Contents/version.plist
    /System/Library/Extensions/AppleUSBAudio.kext/Contents
    /System/Library/Extensions/AppleUSBAudio.kext

    5. Load the new (old) driver!
    sudo kextload /System/Library/Extensions/AppleUSBAudio.kext

     

    This works for me and I have been doing so for around 2 years now!  I have to do this each time I restart my computer or shutdown but I usually leave it on sleep anyway. 

     

    The driver I download is from the following link http://evo-wiki.cern.ch/twiki/pub/FAQ/AudioProblemMacOSX1057/AppleUSBAudio.kext. zip

    I actually place the driver in the following location  'System> Library>Extensions>'  Sometimes you can get an error message despite the sudo commands so just simply run 'repair file permissions' under disk utility.

     

    I am running snow leopard 10.6.8. and sometimes my USB will not show although I find if i just follow the above commands a second time it will reappear.  Its odd.

     

    I know its not the fix apple should be providing but hopefully it can help those who in the meantime get driven crazy by the robot voice!

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