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Panning in Logic Pro 9 is 64 Left but 63 Right?

What is the meaning of this? Wierd

Posted on Sep 22, 2009 3:52 PM

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Posted on Sep 30, 2009 2:15 PM

I'm gonna butt in here, because this has nothing to do with Apple and everything to do with the standard Midi protocol.

Pan has 128 positions for all devices using the midi protocol, it's standard. Now if Apple were to change this in any way, other devices communicating via midi to Logic would get confused.

The pan position 63 1/2 does not exist in Midi, so a compromise has to be reached.

Apple haven't changed this because they assume we're all professionals, know this fact and would complain if Logic didn't follow the Midi standard.

The reason it's 128, and not 130 or 150 is because midi is a binary protocol based on an 8 bit system 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256 etc. etc.

That's why you have 16 midi channels and 128 positions of volume, or your synth may have 8 banks of 32 sound or 16 banks of 64 sounds or any other combination of 8's

It's got nothing to do with Apple. Period.
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Sep 30, 2009 2:15 PM in response to bugstone

I'm gonna butt in here, because this has nothing to do with Apple and everything to do with the standard Midi protocol.

Pan has 128 positions for all devices using the midi protocol, it's standard. Now if Apple were to change this in any way, other devices communicating via midi to Logic would get confused.

The pan position 63 1/2 does not exist in Midi, so a compromise has to be reached.

Apple haven't changed this because they assume we're all professionals, know this fact and would complain if Logic didn't follow the Midi standard.

The reason it's 128, and not 130 or 150 is because midi is a binary protocol based on an 8 bit system 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256 etc. etc.

That's why you have 16 midi channels and 128 positions of volume, or your synth may have 8 banks of 32 sound or 16 banks of 64 sounds or any other combination of 8's

It's got nothing to do with Apple. Period.

Sep 30, 2009 12:10 PM in response to plast

That is so irritating. You mean any time you are mixing you have to subtract 1 from the right side value to balance the left side? Two left = one right? I can't believe there is not a better way to do that. No equipment I ever used had that anomaly. Why can't Apple fix that? How do other daw's address this situation?

Sep 30, 2009 2:41 PM in response to bill borez

bill borez wrote:
Agreed, but I wasn't gonna go there and confuse the issue even more.

But thanks.


Yeah, I know... it is confusing, just trying to get across the idea that we're only using these numbers as a frame of reference.

Kind of like the MIDI designation for Middle "C", Yamaha early on adopted C3 because it made sense on their 61-key Flagship DX7 synth. Yet Roland and other manufacturers used the industry standard C4.

Logic 9 still has the USE C3(Yamaha) or C4(Roland) in Preferences/Display, a +20 year throwback. 🙂

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Panning in Logic Pro 9 is 64 Left but 63 Right?

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