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itunes credit card fraud

Someone stole my debit card number and chareged $870 worth of itunes. I can not get any help from Apple or Itunes. My bank is doing what it can, but why can't Apple help? Any suggestions?

dell

Posted on Sep 27, 2009 12:55 PM

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Jun 6, 2010 4:06 PM in response to jul35

This is definitely an Apple problem. I got a call this morning from Barclays Bank, telling me that they had detected possible fraudulent activity. It was -- $550 worth of poker chips bought on the iTunes account for the online poker game by Zynga. They canceled the card, and are taking the charges off. I went online and chatted with an Apple representative, and we went into my account, changed the Apple ID, changed the password, and changed the credit card to Bank of America. This afternoon, I went online to the Bank of America account and saw a temporary authorization for iTunes. I immediately called the bank, canceled the card, and now am going to cancel my iTunes account. Since no fraudulent charges have been made on either card outside of iTunes, it is obviously an Apple issue -- either the iPhone or iTunes. Since this issue came about, I have not been on an unsecured wireless network. It's either somebody hacking into Apple's system, or the AT&T 3G system is insecure.

Jun 6, 2010 6:16 PM in response to Chris CA

It seems to me that since so many iTunes users have NOT been compromised there must be some other possibility than the iStore accounts being cracked. What enters my mind is that these users who have been ripped off may have malware on their own computers -- things like keyloggers that are capturing their information and passing it on to fraudsters. I highly recommend to any user who's credit info has been compromised that they do a thorough scan for malware, including root kits (if you don't know what that means, Google it and look for ways to check and remove them). Firewalls and anti-virus software can do only so much to protect you. Opening infected emails or visiting compromised web sites when your system is not fully up-to-date and protected can load all kinds of nasty things on your computer.

Jan 26, 2011 10:55 AM in response to jul35

go here to see more -its happening all over the place - It seems that apple are not doing much to plug this particular hole
I just got hit for £125 but the HSBC have been very sharp and their customer service and fraud departments are on the case right now.
I got my cash reimbursed within a couple of hours, so someone knows whats going on.
Looking at the recent threads were looking at hundreds of thousands of pound here.
APPLE - GET YOUR SECURITY ACT TOGETHER!!!!!!!!!!
Have you read the data protection act ?

Anyway - heres another thread about the same.
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2731702&tstart=0

Mar 26, 2012 5:12 AM in response to Eufeion

Hi Eufeion,


I suppose it is possible that when you clicked on a link in an Ad that it contained a virus, but I don't think it is likely. First and foremost, I would recommend never clicking on any links that you are not sure of. Next, I think I would contact the developer of the App that may have contained the virus and see what they have to say about it...


You should also check out these articles:


Identifying legitimate emails from the iTunes Store

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2075


iTunes Store: Best practices for protecting the security of your account

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4156


Since some idiot stole your credit card information, the iTunes Store will refund the unauthorized purchases for you once your credit card company issues a chargeback.


Anyway, hope you get this resolved without too much hassle, good luck!

Nov 7, 2012 5:32 AM in response to jul35

I've personally heard of multiple great experiences with iTunes support from multiple people I know. I wanted to reply to this thread to argue my belief that any assumption that Apple, iTunes, and/or iTunes' security is at fault in any of these scenarios is probably an assumption without any sound basis or proof.



I think most of these cases that are actually fraud and not purchases by kids are probably due to being tricked to provide their password and or billing information in response to fraudulent phishing emails. Other causes may be unrelated sources such as unscrupulous online vendors, local places such as restaurants, gas stations, etc. Maybe that place where you pulled over for gas and tried to run your card and it mysteriously didn't work? You hear the stories of people that setup card scanners that look like they're part of the pump or ATM. Maybe you tried to go to the Apple Online Store site, but typed in a Google search instead of a URL, and then visited some fraudulent site that pops up on Google's advertised results. Maybe the charge was on your wireless statement, and one of their support reps that doesn't know a thing about what they're talking about referred you to Apple. That happened to me when I called them about a $10 scam charge that started occurring on my phone statement which showed up from a scam associated with a technique known as "cramming." I asked my wireless rep to speak to a supervisor and got that taken care of. Anyways…



The iTunes Store is one of the largest worldwide online storefronts in the world. Over 400,000,000 iTunes accounts exist according to Wikipedia. I'm sure nobody ever uses a stolen credit card at Wal-Mart… yeah right. So the iTunes Store has tons of music and is reaching nearly a million third-party apps that are only sold for the iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch from the iTunes Store… unfortunately there are ethically challenged people out there that will want to try to acquire this content without using their own funds, and unfortunately there are people out there that make a business out of stealing/acquiring/selling/buying compromised personal and billing information. I don't see how it can be Apple's fault that someone else just happened to have your credit card information and decided to buy something from iTunes.



How could APPLE let this happen? If the necessary measures were taken to prevent all fraud, then Apple would probably run into an issue where 15,000 dollars of legitimate attempted purchases by legitimate people would be lost for every 1 dollar of additional fraudulent purchases that were prevented.



You'd have people freaking out because they'd have 4 kids but only 3 different credit cards, and it wouldn't be possible to use a specific card number on more than one Apple ID that you use for iTunes. They'd have to go exchange the new iPad and buy a pony for their fourth kid. You'd have to go to an Apple Store with a copy of your utility bill, either your social security card or birth certificate, and a photo ID in order to create an iTunes Apple ID. Or whenever you wanted to create an Apple ID, you'd need to fax in high resolution photo-copies of the front and back of your photo ID and credit card. You'd have a thread here with 5000 pages of posts per year instead of 17 pages over 3 years of people all complaining how they were on a trip and they couldn't buy that album, book, or movie because they were in a location other than their authorized desktop computer that they used to create the account 4 years ago which only works with iTunes when they bypass their router and connect the computer directly to their cable modem with an ethernet cord. Even after visiting the Apple Store the first time with their electric bill, they'd need to go back with 2 forms of ID in order to authenticate their new iPhone or iPad with their account. One of ten potential users would give up trying to use iTunes due to their inability to provide billing information in a standardized format or in a format that precisely matches the information their bank or credit card company has on file.



I'd assume 75% or more of the "unauthorized" or "fraudulent" purchases that people report are actually legitimate purchases made by people's family members (probably often young children). "But my kid is 4 years old and couldn't have done this because he can't read and does not know my password!" That is what my neighbor said when he contacted iTunes and was told that the $200 or so of charges that hit his bank over 1 or 2 days appeared to be "In-App Purchases" from within a free app/game he had allowed the kid to download. The iTunes person was able to help him as an exception and explained to him how to set restrictions to ensure his child didn't puchases without his permission. By default there is a 15 minute time-frame after you enter your password for your kid so they can download their free game... hand the kid an iPad with a signed in iTunes Apple ID that has a $5,000 limit CC on file and they have a free ticket for a 15 minute shopping spree... and while a 4 year old may not understand what the $100 price tag means, they do understand that a treasure chest of gems or coins is better than a sack of coins or 3 individual gemstone. Fifteen minutes go by with your kid playing the game, and 2 days later you notice a page of transactions of $9.99, $49.99, $99.99, etc. on your bank or credit card statement. Just because there were not restrictions set by the guardian of the child does not mean there is a hole in Apple's security.



Per the iTunes Store Terms and Conditions (URL: http://www.apple.com/legal/itunes/us/terms.html#SALE ) that everyone must agree they've read and understand before accessing the iTunes Store:



"In order to purchase and download App and Book Products from the App and Book Services, you must enter your Apple ID and password to authenticate your Account. Once you have authenticated your Account, you will not need to authenticate again for fifteen minutes. During this time, you will be able to purchase and download App and Book Products without re-entering your password. You can turn off the ability to make App and Book Product purchases by adjusting the settings on your computer or iOS Device. For more information, please see http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1904 or http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4213. "



In other words, this means updating to iOS 5 or later and going to Settings > General > Restrictions on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch, tapping "Enable Restrictions," choosing a restrictions passcode, and then scrolling down and making sure that the "Require Password" setting is changed to "Immediately" instead of "15 minutes" in the various items contained in the "Allowed Content" section of the Restrictions settings. Anyone that has young children using the devices should also set "In-App Purchase" to "OFF."



Here are articles about iOS restrictions and "In-App Purchases."



iOS: Understanding Restrictions - http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4213


iTunes Store: About In-App Purchases - http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4009



If you're not going to supervise your children or take the necessary due diligence to understand the powerful hand-held computer's they're using, you should make sure they use their own Apple ID with no PayPal or credit card setup, or remove the payment type from your Apple ID. You can still download free stuff with no payment type.



iTunes Store: Changing Account Information - http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1918



Creating an iTunes Store, App Store, iBookstore, and Mac App Store account without a credit card - http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2534



If you've noticed a bunch of unrecognized charges and you have kids that may use your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch sometimes, I'd recommend checking your iTunes purchase history ( WHICH CANNOT BE VIEWED AT A WEBSITE ). If you think your kid doesn't have an account, go to "Settings" > "Store" or "Settings" > "iTunes and App Stores" on the iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch, and check what is listed as the Apple ID. Make sure you're signed in and viewing the purchase history within iTunes that is installed on your computer with that Apple ID.



iTunes Store & Mac App Store: Seeing your purchase history and order numbers - http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2727



If charges just randomly started showing up on the credit card statement and you don't have kids or family members that could have made purchases and they're not showing in your iTunes ( not Apple Online Store ) purchase history, then your credit card was probably stolen at the restaurant or gas station. Or... you provided it to a illegimate source after being fooled by a fraudulent phishing email. In order for someone to use a credit card on iTunes, they need your full credit card number, expiration date, and security code. This is not information that you can get by signing into someone's iTunes account. Whether your name, address, and phone number is required or not for a transaction to be authorized by your bank or CC company is something that is decided on the bank or CC side.



Do not be fooled by fraudulent "phishing" and "spoofing" emails. It's too easy for the fraudsters when you just give them your information and they don't even have to take it. This isn't just applicable to iTunes. See the info below:


Identifying legitimate emails from the iTunes Store - http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2075


Identifying fraudulent "phishing" email - http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4933


Also included in the iTunes Terms and Conditions:



"As a registered user of the App and Book Services, you may establish an account ("Account"). Don’t reveal your Account information to anyone else. You are solely responsible for maintaining the confidentiality and security of your Account, and for all activities that occur on or through your Account, and you agree to immediately notify Apple of any security breach of your Account. Apple shall not be responsible for any losses arising out of the unauthorized use of your Account. "



In other words, it is your responsibility to have the online equivalent of "street smarts" so that you can maintain the security of your personal information and billing information.



If you think your account has been compromised, you should immediately contact Apple. You should also visit the http://appleid.apple.com site DIRECTLY ( not via a potentially fraudulent link in a phishing email ) and change your Apple ID password and security questions immediately . You should ALSO change the password of your email account (i.e.: your Gmail, Yahoo, MSN, Live, Hotmail, etc.) You should change the password of any social network site that used your old password to something different than your Apple ID password. Adding a "RESCUE EMAIL ADDRESS" in "Password and Security" at http://appleid.apple.com is something Apple recently let us do that can significantly increase the security of your account. This makes it to where password reset and security question reset emails go to the "RESCUE EMAIL" which can't be the same as the primary. This prevents someone from being able to reset your password and security information in the event your primary email account is compromised.



Here are articles that explain the rescue email and that provide general tips for protecting account security:



About the rescue email address - http://support.apple.com/kb/HT531



Apple ID: Tips for protecting the security of your account - http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4232

Mar 14, 2013 5:49 PM in response to tinktoy

I am very happy to hear that itunes refunding charges for Theo Rowland, hopefully they will help you out as well. You can use that link to report your charges.

http://www.apple.com/support/itunes/contact/



This is itunes and app store terms of service you agreed to in order to use your itunes store account:

http://www.apple.com/legal/itunes/us/terms.html#SERVICE


That is the line conserning you allowing your five years old to use your account:


This iTunes Service is available for individuals aged 13 years or older. If you are 13 or older but under the age of 18, you should review this Agreement with your parent or guardian to make sure that you and your parent or guardian understand it.


That is something that pertains to situation you described:


As a registered user of the iTunes Service, you may establish an account ("Account"). Don’t reveal your Account information to anyone else. You are solely responsible for maintaining the confidentiality and security of your Account and for all activities that occur on or through your Account, and you agree to immediately notify Apple of any security breach of your Account. Apple shall not be responsible for any losses arising out of the unauthorized use of your Account.




Here is user to user help forum. You just happen to realize consequenses of allowing to your child to use your account. We all here can understand your pain, but please do not threaten us to sell your apple products. If you do not agree with those terms of service, you had no buisness to use apple devices anyway. Before you start using any apple device - you do have to read and agree to those. Apple never made you accept or agree. YOU are the one who did.


Oct 4, 2009 4:57 PM in response to jul35

Apple can't help you with this. Someone used a debit card to purchase things from them. As long as that person had all the right numbers, they had to honor the purchase. That's pretty much the end of their participation in the matter.

You should IMMEDIATELY contact your financial institution. In many cases, your liability is limited. It is up to the bank to contact Apple and work it out.

Best of luck.

Oct 4, 2009 7:26 PM in response to IdrisSeabright

They have to have an account and an e-mail for a reciept to be mailed for every purchase, there should be a way to get that? Check the ALT 2600 boards, you might find a hacker to help or find out how to take it to court yourself. I had a similar problem except after the lowlifes found my card they bought tons of gasoline and diapers. The bank (wachovia) found them but decided not to follow up and prosecute as it would have been more expensive than the losses. That's not a theory, that's ver batum what we were told. No wonder they are losing money and going out of business, I'm sticking with pre-paid anonymous cards for any on-line stuff and smaller amounts.

Oct 4, 2009 8:52 PM in response to michaelsmind

find out how to take it to court yourself.

Take what to court?
I'm sticking with pre-paid anonymous cards for any on-line stuff and smaller amounts

A better way is to simply not leave your info in iTunes. If you want something, add your info, make a purchase then delete your info.
If the info is there, even a prepaid card, it can be used. If nothing is there, there's nothing to use.

Oct 30, 2009 9:27 AM in response to jul35

How strange - this has happened to me the same day.... i live in the uk. I wasnt even connected to the internet for 3 weeks after as moved new address. Bank are being nightmares as they are trying to blame these purchases on me 260GBP. I tunes surely have the IP addresses of these people and can give this to the police, but they are not helping me. 5 weeks down the line and i have been in touch with the finacial services authority and police ( no one seems to care)

Oct 30, 2009 9:37 AM in response to shazzauk

I tunes surely have the IP addresses of these people

Actually no, they almost certainly don't. I very much doubt that Apple does, or even can in any practical way, track and log the IP address for every transaction. Even if they did:

and can give this to the police,

the police would have to request the information. Whether they have I can't say, but depending on UK privacy laws it might take a court order before Apple could release any information about users. And even then, the police would have to go to extensive lengths to try and find the culprit; first tracking down which ISP manages that particular IP address to find out any location from an IP address. And then working with the ISP (again perhaps requiring a court order) to identify where that IP address is. And that would be assuming that the location wasn't just some Internet cafe or other anonymous location as is most likely.

While I understand your frustration, it's just not realistic to expect the police to take that much time away from more serious crimes to go to all the effort of tracking down what is probably a minor (relatively speaking; I'm sure it's not minor to you) crime. Sorry, but your best, and perhaps only, recourse is to work through the fraud department of your credit card issuer and hope that they will indeed label the purchase as fraud and reverse the charge to your card.

Good luck.

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