pulling video and audio out of ts folder

Hi,

My client wants me to correct a mistake on their DVD. Unfortunately they do not have the original master tapes, leaving me only with a DVD. Does anyone know how I can extract those m2v files with audio so I can work with them in After Effects?

Is their a program out there? Thanks in advance.

-Frank

Posted on Oct 5, 2005 11:48 AM

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Oct 5, 2005 1:50 PM in response to Frank Ruggiero

DVDs use MPEG-2 for their compression. If you take those files, de-mux them, convert them to .mov files, edit them, then re-compress them back into a DVD there will be a noticeable loss in quality. Compressing an all ready compressed file is bad. Think of photocopying a photocopy. Warn the client of this before they come back screaming that you ruined the quality of their DVD.
They probably know exactly where the original master tapes are, but it involves paying someone for their time, and they are being cheap.

Oct 5, 2005 10:00 PM in response to Eric Pautsch1

Howdy Eric
I've been using MpegStreamClip for this which is OK but if there's a timecode break in the mpeg (which can happen with DVD recorders) I occassionally get a dropped frame. I just tried to open a DVD recordered .vob in QT and found that it would only see to the first timecode break. Is there any way around this that you've come across?
Cheers
B

Oct 29, 2005 2:04 AM in response to Houghts

H,

maybe you missed the menu item, but it will do it - just Save or Save/export the fixed file (this is -as you probably know, a very common QT problem with MPEGs - particularly those produced by peecee tools....)

Other ways include using ffmpeg or BBDemux (or similar tools like videolan etc..) to Demux the file... then just reassemble/remux the A & V as Reqd... these processes are all 'more tolerant' than QT and automagically fix em up ...)

ATB,

Oct 31, 2005 6:32 PM in response to Chris Clarke1

Chris, are you sure there's no 'copy protection', CSS or other stuff on the DVD ... i.e.what's its heritage/how was it created etc... ?

when you say 'can't get any other program to recognize these files'.. do you mean mplayerX, mpegstreamclip, VLC, QT, FFMPEGx, Gumby, mediapipe, simplemovie, DVDBackup & similar tools (for the DVD)...as well as QT pro & QT-based tools ? (there are a lot of players, decoders & converters about....

I generally use one tool to go from DVD structures to disk then use different tools on the files according to my goals...

BUT: i think everyone who works with this stuff'd agree that
b we need a hardy, general-purpose 'fix mpegs to compliant' tool for MPEGs on Macs (for use pre-quicktime)
i.e. a decoder/player with a 'pass-through' exporter which allows 'clean data' through
b without
recompressing audio and video because in almost every case where I've had the time to really look at the data, 99% is OK but the data has 'glitches' in it: bunches of binary zeroes from sloppy programming, junk After valid header/data chunks but before the next header from improper 'split & Join routines, lost timecode/data ... and so on... (You'll see 50MB mpeg files that QT info says are 10 secs long at "10MBps"...when they are 30 mins long - at the much lower ⚠ correct data rate - which seems to suggest that the 'info' is obtained by a bum calculation in QT rather than by ref to info in the file & other headers. When played in VLC, mPlayerX etc. they generally play OK -i.e. for the 30 mins).

The trick is to get the output of one of these into a useable file on disk... without transcoding which is why de-MUXing and remuxing can be a good way to go..many of the tools discard bad data and/or reconstitute correct formats etc. mpegstreamclip is very promising, but it isn't clear just when it's transcoding.. and 'save' and 'save as' seem to often fail due to an apparent programming bug. [e.g. if you input m2v/m2a it'll often fix data & TC Breaks (great work!).. but you have to use 'export to/convert to/demux to for output := even if the target is 'm2v/m2a' same as input, you 'convert to' m2v/m2a.. which is not outstandingly intuitive ... grin

best wishes,

Oct 31, 2005 6:38 PM in response to Wayne T

PS:

One thing I haven't tried yet (time/complexity/research needed) is to use vlc/mplayer etc. as command line tools to decode & play whilst using UNIX to pipe the output either to a file or to an app which will write the data streams TO a correctly-formatted file.. - something which a bit of reading suggests should be possible....

Maybe I shd go ask some *NIX vid gurus in their forums ... 🙂

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