9 Replies Latest reply: Oct 8, 2009 3:28 PM by Tom Gewecke
keraunoscopia Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)
I'm stupid and the special character palette in Pages makes no sense to me and U+ codes and all that is just Microsoft crap to me that I really don't want to deal with. I don't even know what purpose they serve.

Anyone know the shortcut key for the em dash? I can get the en dash — with shift-option-hyphen, but i need the longer one.

MacBook Pro 17", Mac OS X (10.5.7), 2.4 GHz 2GB
  • Peggy Level 8 Level 8 (38,585 points)
    Command + Option + - gives —.

  • keraunoscopia Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)
    Yeah, but that's an en dash.

    - dash - used for a minus sign for example

    - hyphen - used for hyphenating words, like re-enter

    — en-dash - used with a range of numbers, like 54—56

    —— em-dash - I can't make one, but it should be lengthier than the en-dash and is used for parenthetical statements. The cat in the hat—not to be confused with the story of the same name—bleh dee blah.

    So any ideas on how to make an em-dash and its shortcut key?
  • Tom Gewecke Level 9 Level 9 (75,720 points)
    So any ideas on how to make an em-dash and its shortcut key?


    Option/alt + shift + -

  • keraunoscopia Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)
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    Hmm. Looks like the en-dash doesn't work in Safari.

    Option - hyphen = en-dash in Pages. Option - shift - hyphen = em-dash.

    But the en-dash doesn't work in Safari. No wonder I was getting confused!!
  • Level 8 Level 8 (41,790 points)
    keraunoscopia wrote:
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    Hmm. Looks like the en-dash doesn't work in Safari.

    Option - hyphen = en-dash in Pages. Option - shift - hyphen = em-dash.


    True for an English keyboard
    reverse for a French one !
    But the en-dash doesn't work in Safari. No wonder I was getting confused!!


    – — I got these two chars in Safari with the described shortcuts. The first one is en-dash, the second is em-dash

    Yvan KOENIG (VALLAURIS, France) jeudi 8 octobre 2009 15:46:23
  • fruhulda Level 6 Level 6 (15,120 points)
    But the two first ones do look different! The second looks a tiny bit shorter than the first one.
  • Tom Gewecke Level 9 Level 9 (75,720 points)
    But the two first ones do look different! The second looks a tiny bit shorter than the first one.


    I think if you copy/paste them into textedit and vary the font, you will see a lot of variation in how these dashes are represented.
  • keraunoscopia Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)
    "But the two first ones do look different! The second looks a tiny bit shorter than the first one."

    I noticed that too and even brought the hyphens together. I decided it was an optical illusion, but now that you pointed it out, it isn't.

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    – en dash (option-hyphen)
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    When I was editing a Wikipedia article with Safari, the en-dash appeared in the edit window as a tiny hyphen, but the final result on the Wiki page appeared as an en-dash should.

    So is this an error with Safari then? TextEdit as well shows the option-hyphen as a shorter dash than a normal hyphen.
  • Tom Gewecke Level 9 Level 9 (75,720 points)
    So is this an error with Safari then?


    I think is a font issue. Try setting TextEdit to Lucida Grande 36