inexpensive camcorders with AV/DV passthrough - suggestions??

Honestly, I'm not trying to get away with not doing my homework!

I am looking for an inexpensive camcorder that will allow AV/DV passthrough, and am finding it almost impossible to find this feature listed. I need to go from RCA jacks in, to USB or Firewire out. Once in a while I find something in a review, saying yes or no, but it doesn't seem to be a part of the common description.

Could someone give me a handful of options? I don't need anything fancy, though I don't want an expensive paperweight, either.

Many thanks!

MacBook Intel Core Duo, Mac OS X (10.6.1), new screen, new hard drive... thanks kitties!

Posted on Oct 17, 2009 2:34 PM

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Oct 17, 2009 2:53 PM in response to Aerowhip

Thanks Nick - that route is a possibility also - I wondered about this Elgato product:

http://www.elgato.com/elgato/na/mainmenu/products/Video-Capture/product1.en.html
very highly rated -- does it do what I need? Or does this produce only limited formats?

However, I don't have a camcorder, and if I could find one not too expensive that will do this job as well, I might just find I have some other uses for the camera...

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Oct 17, 2009 3:29 PM in response to Aerowhip

Thank you, Meg - that is exactly the question I have not answered!

Definitely not going for Cannes or Sundance! Probably some bits of editing, maybe soundtrack additions, but ultimately to share clips with friends and family. Play from mac to tv, keep on iphone, maybe burn to DVD. The specific AV input I'm looking to capture is from a little spy cam that will be watching squirrels in their house. Not great quality to start with. But might ultimately be mixed with other footage from camcorder itself.

Is that enough of an answer, or were you looking for more specific (format, etc)? - I hope not, as I'm really pretty new to this all, and might not be able to be more specific.

Thank you so much for your help with this.

Oct 17, 2009 3:59 PM in response to Aerowhip

Hi -
I think the best route for you would be to find a camcorder that will do the analog to digital conversion so that you can use the files on your Mac to edit, add soundtracks, etc.
The Elgato and other similar devices output in a file structure know as H.264, which is good for recording and playing back, but requires file format conversion to be efficiently edited. They also don't address your goal of shooting more material yourself.

Perhaps you know someone with a camcorder that has the feature, or someone will jump in with a suggestion of a particular camcorder.

If not, I guess the best thing would be to do research at a site like
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/browse/Camcorders/ci/1820/N/4294548420
and see if you can find one that does the conversion and fits your budget.
Good luck!

Oct 18, 2009 5:55 AM in response to Aerowhip

My head is still spinning gently. Here's a specific product:

http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=1055 1&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921665738346#specifications

Inputs and Outputs:

+Audio/Video Remote Terminal : Video / S Video / Audio+
Analog Audio/Video Output(s) : Included (via A/V Remote Terminal)
USB Port(s) : Hi-speed (2.0 compliant)
S-Video Output(s) : Sold separately (via A/V Remote jack)

the remote A/V terminal - is that for input or just output? Would this camcorder work for me?

I'm sorry I'm not "getting" this quicker, but the terminology is still a bit ambiguous for me.

Thanks, again.



Oops - now I see this particular Sony comes with software not supported by Mac. What's with that?? Is that crucial software, or do I already have it's capacities with imovie or others?

(head now spinning slightly faster...)

Oct 18, 2009 6:09 AM in response to Aerowhip

Probably not. It's a hard drive camcorder that records to MPEG2, not DV.

You need to look for a *miniDV camcorder* that has both
1) *a/v inputs (analog)* and
2) *FireWire input/output*

Different manufacturers call analog-digital passthrough by different names. Canon calls it AV-DV OUT. Most if not all of the Canon miniDV camcorders support analog-digital passthrough. Some Sony, Panasonic and other miniDV camcorders also support passthrough.

Generally the spec sheets do not spell out whether or not the camcorder supports passthrough. You'll have to look at the manual - fortunately most camcorder user manuals can be downloaded free from the manufacturer's website.

You can use iMovie, Final Cut Express and number of other applications to capture video via passthrough. iMovie comes with every Mac. Generally the software that comes with the camera itself is not needed, and often it is useless anyway.

Oct 18, 2009 8:37 AM in response to Aerowhip

I finally found some review sites that will sort specifically for AV/DV passthrough capability! Looks like new they start at $500; was hoping for something less. SO, checking used options.

Anyone have any comments about the Sony DCR-HC90?

http://reviews.cnet.com/digital-camcorders/sony-dcr-hc90/4505-6500_7-31272431.ht ml?tag=mncol;lst9

there are some affordable examples on ebay.

again, thanks.

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