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Jan Sampermans

Q: New iMac 27inch screen flickering/tearing/shutoff

I have been experiencing some problems with the all new iMac 27inch display.
At non-fixed intervals i will get one of the following:

Screen distortion/flicker somewhere random in the screen (feels like it is more in the lower part) that looks like a horizontal bar of about 2-3inches just popping in and out of the screen.

Screen will go completely black for a second and then come back on. Sometimes 2-3 times in a row.

Somebody else already made some video-clips about these problems, I am experiencing exactly the same behaviour.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjOxlxVz5Os
http://gallery.me.com/larzy#100025

Just to not that in the course of writing this post my screen has flickered 13 times and has gone black 2 times.

iMac 27inch 3Ghz 4GB 1TB ATI 4670, Mac OS X (10.6.1)

Posted on Oct 27, 2009 3:56 AM

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  • by Dino1956,

    Dino1956 Dino1956 Feb 7, 2010 10:53 AM in response to Michael M
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    Feb 7, 2010 10:53 AM in response to Michael M
    I too am waiting for my iMac & have the same concerns as you. Most of us here believe that this post has been helpful & encouraging. Good Luck! Please Let Us Know! Thanks!
  • by RickC309,

    RickC309 RickC309 Feb 7, 2010 11:50 AM in response to Jan Sampermans
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    Feb 7, 2010 11:50 AM in response to Jan Sampermans
    I'd like to thank all that contributed needed information to this thread. I have been wanting an i7 for about a month now, this thread held me up on the purchase because of the ongoing situation with the flickering and yellowing issues. As of the week 05 builds I feel comfortable about now placing my order with Apple. Thanks again to all that offered up valuable information.
  • by Dino1956,

    Dino1956 Dino1956 Feb 7, 2010 11:55 AM in response to RickC309
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    Feb 7, 2010 11:55 AM in response to RickC309
    Good Luck to you RickC309. I'm thinking that will be my magic Week Number as well. Ships on Feb 18th.
  • by UKOutpost,

    UKOutpost UKOutpost Feb 7, 2010 12:27 PM in response to Dino1956
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    Feb 7, 2010 12:27 PM in response to Dino1956
    I'd received my week 05 a few days ago, and although it is completely free of the flicker, I am still sending it back, due mainly to a small mark under the glass (and slight yellow tint, which I could have lived with, if that had been the only problem), so I've moved over to the 'Yellow tint' thread !. Despite this, Apple Support have been great, and they are letting me keep this one until the new one arrives.

    Message was edited by: UKOutpost
  • by Dino1956,

    Dino1956 Dino1956 Feb 7, 2010 12:32 PM in response to UKOutpost
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    Feb 7, 2010 12:32 PM in response to UKOutpost
    Week 05 & Still Yellow? That just tells me that something really strange is going on. At this point in time, they should have figured out what's causing the Yellow Color Conformity issue. Thanks. See you on the Yellow thread.
  • by citrus101,

    citrus101 citrus101 Feb 7, 2010 1:54 PM in response to Dino1956
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    Feb 7, 2010 1:54 PM in response to Dino1956
    Hi Dino,

    do you remember our discussion about Onyx (page 165)? Other posters thought we're crazy frogs, because we said, that the issue has to be software related. Some wrote long posts to convince us, that we're completely wrong and that they were absolutely sure, that only a hardware replacement can help ... This thread is better than theatre.

    BTW pazuita was one of them, but he was friendly and his post was very constructive. He tried Onyx, but the fix didn't work for him.

    I know, it's old cheese now, but I really would like to understand the cause of the flicker. I have to admit that I had more than five different theories, but maybe one of us gave Apple-Techs the key to the solution, who knows.
  • by Mr N,

    Mr N Mr N Feb 7, 2010 1:55 PM in response to UKOutpost
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    Feb 7, 2010 1:55 PM in response to UKOutpost
    No offence to you UKOutpost - in fact if anything I'm standing up for your rights. But we really should not have to "live with" any compromises for a machine at this price point. Apple is a premium brand, and these are top-of-the-range machines. I know a lot of folks argue that new technology has its glitches, and you can't get a 100% LCD monitor, all that stuff. But at the end of the day, top dollar equals top quality.

    If the manufacturer wants to compromise on quality, fine. But then the price has to come down. Can't have it both ways.

    In short, don't sell yourself short. If you're putting the dollars in, you should get quality. And we know Apple have it in them to deliver.
  • by Dino1956,

    Dino1956 Dino1956 Feb 7, 2010 2:02 PM in response to citrus101
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    Feb 7, 2010 2:02 PM in response to citrus101
    Citrus, of course I remember & Onyx worked for me like 3 times. Well it's obvious now that it was Software. We were not wrong.
  • by Dino1956,

    Dino1956 Dino1956 Feb 7, 2010 2:07 PM in response to Mr N
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    Feb 7, 2010 2:07 PM in response to Mr N
    Apple to me is the Mercedes of computer manufacturers. You expect Perfect! That's what you pay for. A Screen that is advertised as being the "Ultimate Display" has to be better in comparison to anything currently available. The word "Ultimate" to me means The Best. And if my old Samsung 19" LCD has better Color Conformity than the "Ultimate Display", then I know something is drastically wrong, therefore I am not satisfied.
  • by Rick Lang,

    Rick Lang Rick Lang Feb 7, 2010 2:31 PM in response to PaoloS
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    Feb 7, 2010 2:31 PM in response to PaoloS
    PaoloS wrote:
    Last but not least: if you have personal info on your iMac, don't forget to clean up the hard disk from your personal data before shipping it back.
    To do so, after deleting all files and directories (and/or entire users) containing sensitive info, use Disk Utility to _physically Erase free space_ (for ordinary people with ordinary secrets, one-pass erasing is sufficient; if you are paranoid or a 007 you may even select multiple-pass erasing, but that will require a lot of time).


    I think you have typo suggesting to Erase Free Space. I think you meant to say, Erase because you want all files over-wriiten with zeros, not just the fee space. In the Security Options, one pass may suffice but seven pass is much mire secure if you are with MI5. A seven pass erase on my 2 TB disk took 38 hours, so less than a day likely for a 1 TB system. Worth the peace of mind since most of us either work for MI5 or we have a lot of personal stuff on our drives like bank accounts and passwords.
  • by 1984-I_Was_1,

    1984-I_Was_1 1984-I_Was_1 Feb 7, 2010 2:41 PM in response to Jan Sampermans
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    Feb 7, 2010 2:41 PM in response to Jan Sampermans
    dang... guys, simcakes got a week 41 iMac in Mid-Jan 2010!... this is kinda worrying no? I'm not saying it's problematic, sounds like the second update fixed his at least, but... isn't it kinda like getting a refurbed machine for a new price if they basically take it in, chop it up, then ship it back out to somebody for their FIRST order about 3 months after this really HIGH demand machine was manufactured? Of course, wherever simcakes got his machine, could be the explanation... i just find it weird... simcakes, if you're listening, where did you order your machine from?
    and certainly, maybe all they did was apply the first update, not necessarily change out any parts... I dunno...
  • by Dino1956,

    Dino1956 Dino1956 Feb 7, 2010 2:48 PM in response to Rick Lang
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    Feb 7, 2010 2:48 PM in response to Rick Lang
    I think I might pop the Snow Leopard in Disk Utility, do an "Erase & Install". I don't really have ANY real Financial stuff on my Mac but it's a great idea guys. Thanks for reminding me.
  • by lamont_ancient,

    lamont_ancient lamont_ancient Feb 7, 2010 2:52 PM in response to n3nto
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    Feb 7, 2010 2:52 PM in response to n3nto
    My question as well, to wait or not to wait for a 27" Revision to hit the market.

    Anyone care to guess just how soon that would happen?
  • by dxgriffiths,

    dxgriffiths dxgriffiths Feb 7, 2010 3:17 PM in response to Jan Sampermans
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    Feb 7, 2010 3:17 PM in response to Jan Sampermans
    An update from me...

    Last time I posted I was about to box-up #3 iMac because support had called to say that the shipment had arrived at the retail store handling the exchange and that we call and arrange with the guy there.

    I call. "Sorry, a Genius can't take phone calls. And I'm not authorised to do anything so he'll just have to call you back."

    Fine. I wait patiently for the rest of the day.

    No call.

    The next day I call again. "I'll have to leave a message with the manager, the guy you want isn't here today."

    Fine, call me back. Then the manager calls, and I **** you not, says "Sorry the message I got didn't make any sense so I thought I'd better call."

    I explain it all again and the manager is like yeah cool I can see in your records you've got an iMac shipping here and it'll arrive on the tenth." Yes, I tell him, that's what I've been saying... Support called yesterday to say it'd arrived already. "Oh" he says. So it's Friday afternoon and the manager of the effing store can't even determine if the machine has arrived, so he offers to call Exec Relations and get back to me.

    You might not be surprised to learn, there was no call.

    Now, as mad as I sound now... Two more days later... I've been nothing but patient and polite with all these people, and it's still not enough.

    So no, I can't tell you if the other one is still flickering because it's been sitting in a box for days. And I can't report on the state of the replacement because God only knows when anyone will be able to figure out where in time or space it might happen to be.
  • by Servant of Cats,

    Servant of Cats Servant of Cats Feb 7, 2010 4:35 PM in response to Jan Sampermans
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    Feb 7, 2010 4:35 PM in response to Jan Sampermans
    I've been running the second patch for a couple of days now. So far, I have not seen any more screen blackouts. (It is, of course, far too early to pronounce the problem 'fixed'.)

    The yellow tint problem at the bottom of the screen is the same as before. Neither patch affected it -- and I doubt that either was designed to do so.
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