8 Replies Latest reply: Nov 9, 2009 6:31 PM by Shandella
Shandella Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
My MacBook won't go to login screen where I put in my password, instead its stuck on a blue screen with revolving circle.

My MacBook (13-inch Mid 2007)has Leopard, and has always worked great until this week when I was deleting old files and emptying my trash and when my computer said I needed more room on the start-up disk. So I went to the Disk Utility and poked around looking for a solution, there was something that said I could overwrite my free space with zeros (one time), so I clicked that, it was overwriting or something, but froze in the middle of that. So eventually all the windows went away, and I went back to browsing the internet (my computer acting normal).
Then the next morning when I turn it on, it chimes with the Apple logo and then goes to a blue screen with the revolving circle. The circle revolves for 3 seconds then goes away so its just blue, then revolves for 3 seconds... and just keeps repeating that revolving circle/blue screen all day long.
I have tried keyboard short cuts like holding option, and the hard drive image comes up, but when I click on the hard drive image it just goes to the revolving/blue cycle.
I have looked at different forums and tried taking the battery out, and done what the manual says with no success. I don't have my discs (the ones that come with the macbook package), they are in a different state. I am going to borrow a disc from a friend and try to start it up from disc 1.
I always install my updates, and this is quite unexpected.

Any input would be extremely appreciated

MacBook (13-inch Mid 2007), Mac OS X (10.5), Not completely sure on Leopard version
  • sig Level 8 Level 8 (35,780 points)
    "...there was something that said I could overwrite my free space with zeros (one time), so I clicked that, it was overwriting or something,..."

    If you needed more space on your hard drive then you need to remove files from it. Overwriting empty space is not freeing up space. What it does is create a file on your hard drive. In as much as you were teetering on the brink of destruction to begin with you are now closer. You need to remove files from the hard drive. The rule of thumb here is at least 15% free space. Connect your Mac to anther via firewire and boot your Mac into target disk mode (hold down the 't' key when booting up. Hopefully your hard drive will show up on the desktop of the other Mac. You can then begin removing files. Afterwards you should boot your Mac from your OS installer disk and run Repair Disk from Disk Utility. Hopefully the hard drive is not trashed.
  • Strolls Level 1 Level 1 (50 points)
    sig wrote:
    ... Overwriting empty space is not freeing up space. What it does is create a file on your hard drive. ... You need to remove files from the hard drive ... Connect your Mac to anther via firewire and boot your Mac into target disk mode (hold down the 't' key when booting up. Hopefully your hard drive will show up on the desktop of the other Mac. You can then begin removing files.


    The key thing to do here is find the file that was created to fill up all the remaining space on the drive and delete it.

    This file was created solely so that it could be zeroed over, and it would have been deleted when the zeroing was complete. Because you interrupted the procedure, you're left with this big useless file on the drive, no free space, and OS X is unable to log you in because it can't perform the normal writing of files that it would normally do when you log on.

    Delete this one file - I have no idea what it's called, so do some Goolging - and you'll be able to log in as normal. Sure you're short of space, but there's no need to delete any of your important photos, letters or email. Once you can log in again as normal Google "upgrade MacBook hard-drive" and spend like $50 on the required new disk, cloning across the old (but working) system.

    Stroller.
  • sig Level 8 Level 8 (35,780 points)
    "...Delete this one file..."

    It's much more than that. The OP needs to seriously free up hard drive space and hope that the hard drive is not trashed beyond repair.
  • Strolls Level 1 Level 1 (50 points)
    This is my suggestion:

    Shandella should delete the "/var/root/Library/Caches/TemporaryItems/EFTFile.sparseimage" file then try rebooting and logging in, then come back here and tell us whether "it's much more than that" and whether "the hard drive is not trashed beyond repair".

    Shandella: you may be able to do this by holding Command-S as you power up your laptop (before the start up chime) and then using the terminal.

    First "/sbin/fsck -y" (without the quotes, but don't miss the space). This step really isn't necessary at all, but it just takes a second, and you might as well just do a quick check of the hard disk before mounting it.

    Next type "/sbin/mount -wu /" - this mounts the main hard-drive with read/write access.

    Next type "rm -i /var/root/Library/Caches/TemporaryItems/EFTFile.sparseimage". It should ask you if you want to delete the file, and you should agree.

    Next type "reboot".

    You'll still be a little short of disk space, but I believe you'll at least be able to log in to your user account in the usual way.

    Next step is to back up your data and buy & install a new hard-drive. http://www.macinstruct.com/node/130
  • sig Level 8 Level 8 (35,780 points)
    "This is my suggestion:..."

    I think the OP should try the least invasive method first (target disk mode). One wrong character in not entering the terminal commands properly may damage the setup by making a mistake.

    Always follow Occam's Razor.
  • Shandella Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Hey thanks for the advice Sig and Strolls! I will try Strolls suggestion first because I'm not familiar with Firewire, and don't have a cable. I report back, on any success.
  • Shandella Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Also I just remembered that I was looking at how much free space was on my hard drive (by right clicking, then +get info+) and down at the bottom where it says +Sharing & Permissions+, I clicked that everyone only has read only permission, or possibly no permission. I forget. Obviously I shouldn't be tampering with my hard drive. I don't know if this changes your suggestions. Thanks!

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  • Shandella Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I did what you recommended, but it said that file could not be found (Library/Cache...). I borrowed my friends start up disc, the CD that comes with the Mac, I verified and repaired the hard drive from there, but after both verifying and repairing the hard drive it said that it appears to be okay. Any more suggestions? Thanks