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kristin. Level 2 Level 2 (230 points)
Hello.

I'm running ATV OS 3.0.1 and recently I've been ripping my DVD/BR collection into iTunes. When I rip my DVD/BR discs, I include AC3/DTS audio. Right now I don't have a AC3/DTS speaker system, but since I plan to in the future, I figured it would be best to rip that way. I'm just using the analog stereo cables (right/left) from the ATV to my TV and assume there's some downconverting built into the ATV to handle this?

Anyway, the problem I'm having is that the voices when people speak are usually really hard to hear, while the rest of the sound (music, FX, etc.) is way loud. So, we end up cranking the volume when we can't hear people talking, then the next scene is some action scene and the volume is crazy loud.

Does anyone know what might be wrong/a possible solution?

Any help would be appreciated!
Thanks,
k.

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  • Winston Churchill Level 10 Level 10 (85,540 points)
    Sorry Kirsten, we are unable to help you circumvent copy protection, it's not legal and discussion about such subjects is prohibited in these forums.
  • tmartine Level 3 Level 3 (965 points)
    in the case of home movies on DVDs with AC-3 tracks... if you use a tool like handbrake (free) you can include more than one audio track... it is always best to include a stereo AAC and a AC-3 pass thru track so that you have an audio track to play in the case of when you are not using a system that can decode AC-3 (like in iTunes on your computer). appleTV cannot decode AC-3 and downsample it, it simply passes it on to the receiver for decoding.. if you don't include the stereo track and only an AC-3 pass thru audio track you will simply get silence.
  • kristin. Level 2 Level 2 (230 points)
    I'm not asking about circumventing copy protection?
    My question is about audio?
  • kristin. Level 2 Level 2 (230 points)
    OK, well, I'm not getting silence, I'm getting audio, it's just the voices are really low in the mix.
  • tmartine Level 3 Level 3 (965 points)
    just to be clear... commercial DVDs are copy protected and so the act of ripping a commercial DVD necessitates breaking that copy protection. talking about anything that involves ripping commercial DVDs on this site is not allowed since in the states (where this site is, it is illegal.. not illegal in canada though)

    we can talk about the audio in your DVDs of "home movies" though..

    so you must have a stereo or maybe a multichannel AAC track in your files... can you confirm what sort of tracks you have in your movies?

    if you aren't already, i'd strongly suggest you switch to handbrake for your rips.. it's the simplest solution and very straight forward.. you just pick the appleTV profile, pick your audio tracks and press go.. it just works.. and as i said before alway include an AAC stereo and an AC-3 pass thru and you're good to go..

    what software are you using?

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  • Winston Churchill Level 10 Level 10 (85,540 points)
    kristin. wrote:
    I'm not asking about circumventing copy protection?
    My question is about audio?


    Yes but the only DTS audio is on commercial material.
  • kristin. Level 2 Level 2 (230 points)
    Sorry, let me clarify, for the sake of these boards. These are home movies I'm ripping, not commercial. Since I assume I'm dealing with AAC stereo (since I'm getting sound and I don't have a system capable of AC-3) we can ignore DTS and maybe WC will go away.

    So — back to the issue, which I'll now consider a stereo issue. I'm using handbrake to rip my home movies, using one of the ATV presets. When I'm speaking in my home movies, my voice is low in the mix (it's not this way when I watch my home movie from the DVD I burned myself at home).

    Any idea's why this would be?

    Regards,
    Kristin.
  • Chenks Level 5 Level 5 (7,420 points)
    kristin. wrote:
    Sorry, let me clarify, for the sake of these boards. These are home movies I'm ripping, not commercial. Since I assume I'm dealing with AAC stereo (since I'm getting sound and I don't have a system capable of AC-3) we can ignore DTS and maybe WC will go away.

    So — back to the issue, which I'll now consider a stereo issue. I'm using handbrake to rip my home movies, using one of the ATV presets. When I'm speaking in my home movies, my voice is low in the mix (it's not this way when I watch my home movie from the DVD I burned myself at home).

    Any idea's why this would be?


    you need to confirm what audio is on the actual DVD itself (as you created the DVDs yourself it shouldn't be hard to find out).

    to be honest, from your explanation of the issue, it doesn't sound like stereo.
    it sounds like either DD5.1 or DTS (which makes sense as you said you were ripping your DVD/BR content).
  • Jolly Giant Level 7 Level 7 (25,440 points)
    kristin. wrote:
    Sorry, let me clarify, for the sake of these boards. These are home movies I'm ripping, not commercial. Since I assume I'm dealing with AAC stereo (since I'm getting sound and I don't have a system capable of AC-3) we can ignore DTS and maybe WC will go away.


    i'm sure you will want sir winston on board, as he is very knowledgeable when it comes to TV matters

    So — back to the issue, which I'll now consider a stereo issue. I'm using handbrake to rip my home movies, using one of the ATV presets. When I'm speaking in my home movies, my voice is low in the mix (it's not this way when I watch my home movie from the DVD I burned myself at home).

    Any idea's why this would be?


    i have similar experiences when playing movies through my TV alone (via HDMI). however, once audio goes via optical to my surround receiver, the output is just as it's supposed to be.

    my guess is is you won't know until you get that speaker system. AFAIK, the TV is able to pass whatever audio it is receiving through via optical.

    please correct me if i'm wrong !
  • Chenks Level 5 Level 5 (7,420 points)
    Jolly Giant wrote:
    my guess is is you won't know until you get that speaker system. AFAIK, the TV is able to pass whatever audio it is receiving through via optical.

    please correct me if i'm wrong !


    i'm not sure that it will pass DTS thru to the amp?
  • Jolly Giant Level 7 Level 7 (25,440 points)
    Chenks wrote:
    Jolly Giant wrote:
    my guess is is you won't know until you get that speaker system. AFAIK, the TV is able to pass whatever audio it is receiving through via optical.

    please correct me if i'm wrong !


    i'm not sure that it will pass DTS thru to the amp?


    what of DD5.1 ?
  • Chenks Level 5 Level 5 (7,420 points)
    Jolly Giant wrote:
    what of DD5.1 ?


    yes DD5.1 works over HDMI or optical.
  • kristin. Level 2 Level 2 (230 points)
    Finding a more helpful solution from another board.
  • tmartine Level 3 Level 3 (965 points)
    can you describe your system in detail.. i.e. you have appleTV connected to what, with what connectors?

    it actually kinda sounds like... maybe the centre channel (which has most vocals) is missing... either from the encode (multi-channel --> stereo is screwed up) or some how your system is doing the decode, but doing it incorrectly and eliminating the centre channel..

    it might be helpful for you to describe your set up in more detail... and also what the settings that you uses in handbrake are in detail as well..
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