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Installing new keyboard for OS 9 Classic under OS 10.4

Hi, I have a problem with adding new keyboard for Classic OS 9 which is running under OS 10.4. Basically I can't open System folder for OS 9 because is locked (using by OS 10). I heard I can do this by Terminal app. but I have no idea how do this. When I am doing Get info - button for locking is grey/inactive. Also I tried under Safe mode and without running OS 9 Classic mode. Maybe someone has some idea how sort my problem??? Thank you in advance.

Powerbook G4 1.7GHz, Mac OS X (10.4)

Posted on Nov 14, 2009 3:06 AM

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Nov 14, 2009 12:33 PM in response to Dywiz

In the System Preference> System group of icons, when you click on
the icon "9 Classic" what does the Classic preferences panel suggest
is going on? Do you have your Classic to run immediately on startup
of OS X? Are there any items in your User account's startup panel to
indicate you have somehow set Classic to start automatically on boot?

In Activity Monitor (OS X Applications> Utilities folder, or see GO in
Finder window and choose Utilities folder> Activity Monitor) see if
your Classic application is running. You may be able to force quit it
from Activity Monitor or from Force-Quit under the Blue Apple in the
Finder menu bar, if it is running and thus not letting you access or
change the Classic System 9 folder settings in Control Panel> Keyboard.

Per your other thread, have you a way to reinstall OS9-Classic from an
install disc, should you be able to remove the version in your Mac now?

When you run Disk Utility in OS X, have you chosen from the file menu
to run "fix OS9 permissions" and other options to rebuild OS9 desktop?
As I vaguely recall, you said you tried to Fix OS9 Permissions.

You may have to boot the computer from the installer OS X disc and
use Disk Utility from there to repair disk and repair disk permissions;
when done, quit the Disk Utility and choose from the Installer's menu
to restart using the Startup option in the drop-down menubar...
Then see if you can start up in SafeBoot (shift key held until login)
and then find if you can trash those System 9 folders; or change them.
When done in SafeBoot, restart. Classic will do nothing in SafeBoot.

Hopefully this thread won't run the course of your earlier one.:
"PowerBook G4 Doesn't see OS 9 discs"
http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=10576919

If you have OS 9 installed, then installing a different version is not advised.
Do you have OS9-Classic installer disc included with PowerBook software?

If you have OS 9.2 installer discs, you may be able to use Pacifist utility, a
demo download (or pay to keep using it after demo) to extract OS 9 and
install it even though the installer 9 disc won't directly install.

Good luck & happy computing! 🙂

{edited to add thread links}

Nov 14, 2009 1:09 PM in response to K Shaffer

re: Dywiz

Does any of the following discussion offer ideas on how your configuration may be set up?

If the situation was misunderstood, and perhaps the keyboard control panel is not
sufficient to order the change (once you could access the panel) the information
on the extended topic involving a full OS 9.2 installation in the second post here
may help explain how the general installation language affects the panel option.
{The reply by Don Archibald, or subsequent addendum by him may help in this.}

Re: How to change language in Mac OS 9.2
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=550728

A limited installation of OS 9 as Classic under OS X has different characteristics
in some of how it works or what may function, compared to a fully bootable OS9.
So, the native language in the OS X system may be the one Classic is limited to;
and when a keyboard control panel gives you limited options, depending on what
you expect to change in there, unlocking or reinstalling a Classic system may be
only part of a possible answer.

Good luck in this matter, and happy computing! 🙂

Nov 15, 2009 1:07 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

Some of this was explained to a point, apparently without success or result,
in this earlier(abandoned?) thread topic by the OP - here:

"PowerBook G4 Doesn't see OS 9 discs"
http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=10576919

Thank you for your input and suggestions!

As the world turns, we get dizzy.
Good luck & happy computing! 🙂

Nov 15, 2009 12:38 PM in response to Dywiz

The methods you suggest you have tried involve OS X directly, when
that should be totally unnecessary. If your computer is not running
Classic (you can quit that from the Classic's System Pref panel) the
folder for OS 9 System should never be locked. The path has been
stated on how one can get to the OS9 Keyboard control panel and
you do not need to access OS X system terminal to do any of this.

If you can't quit Classic and it automatically launches on startup, and
does not time-out (by default settings, it does quit by itself) then you
may have to start in SafeBoot mode, and look into any settings you
may have set that changed that default. A user can add items to the
User's (OS X) startup items in a User account. So, if you somehow
have found the System 9 folder locked, that is a very unusual occurr-
ence and not normal in any sense.

If you do get the system 9 folder (not system x) to open and
can find the Keyboard control panel in the Control Panels
folder in system 9 (not X) you can see if the keyboard setup
you needed is present. If not, and you find the OS9 resource
elsewhere and wish to import that correctly into OS9-Classic
you can use this knowledgebase article posted to your First
post on this topic, as contributed by, Tom over there:

http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=10582509#10582509

If you can get into the System (OS9) folder *& need to add* OS9 files in Classic:

"Mac OS X: How to install files into the Classic System file"
http://support.apple.com/kb/TA22449

Anyway, hopefully you can convince the computer you are at the keyboard.
And if nothing else, revisit your old post, read; and link visitors to this one.
Once you can get into the file folder with the 9 on it, the rest should be an
easy walk to see those existing Keyboard options in OS9's control panel.

Until a new topic...
Good luck & happy computing! 🙂

Installing new keyboard for OS 9 Classic under OS 10.4

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