iMovie "green screen" feature has serious problems.

I precisely followed the iMovie "help" instructions to make a green screen effect for what should have been a simple iMovie project... a 10-second video tagline for closing titles on a much more extensive project.

According to iMovie help, it should have been easy (and maybe even fun). It wasn't. Five hours of my life melted away forever. The iMovie "green screen" feature has serious problems. Remember that old Mac advertising campaign that said "It just works"? Well, it doesn't. Shame on Apple and the iMovie development team.

See low-resolution QuickTime movies and more details here:
http://www.art101.com/101temp/imovie_madness

Mac OS X (10.5.8)

Posted on Nov 21, 2009 1:47 PM

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Nov 22, 2009 2:01 PM in response to art101

Folks,

I ran into the same issue (I named it "transparent green screen", I hadn't a better name).
I spent about a week to solve this problem, since I needed it to build a marriage slideshow.

The tools & Config:
iMovie 09, iPhoto 09, Adobe After Effects CS4
Mac OS X 10.6.2, MacBook Pro 13" 2.26 Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo, 2 GB RAM

The Solution for the "transparent green screen":
I created a movie in AE, and put a green background into it. It was the pure green color.
When I imported the movie into iMovie I just got the "transparent green screen", not the real effect.
I some cases, by changing the background images, I could get the green screen to work, but it was kind of random. Which made it harder to solve it.
I thought it could be because of AE, some incompatibility. I went to Youtube and downloaded a green screen video (a woman dancing in a green background). I inserted the video into iMovie, and it worked just fine, all the way.
Then I tried to match the green color I was creating digitally with the Youtube video's green color. It didn't work either. The "transparent" effect was there again.
But when I looked at that Youtube video, I noticed that the green color was not pure. Because that green background was made in the real world, it was not pure, there were some shades of green.

Well, I just replicated that into the digital world. Modified my video's digital green background. From pure green to a gradient green, but very subtle, almost imperceptible. Just to replicate the "imperfection from the real world".

That was it. Solved. Maybe iMovie 09 needs that imperfection to work well. Using "pure greens" might confuses it.

Please do your tests. And let me know your results.

Regards and greetings from Brazil.

Nov 22, 2009 3:33 PM in response to AppleMan1958

Thanks for your reply, AppleMan1958. The original clips were all shot at 30 FPS, in native NTSC. I know the rules.

I used a pure "green screen" color and tried everything I could think of to make it work in iMovie... over and over and over again. It's not a camcorder issue. I repeat: iMovie's "green screen" feature has serious problems.

See: http://www.art101.com/101temp/imovie_madness

Nov 22, 2009 11:23 PM in response to art101

no madness here..
dl your two files, created a NTSC-project, added both, worked like charm:

User uploaded file



even the tiny serifs key excellent ..

does even work in my PAL surrounding... (= did forget to switch iM to your standard on first attempt 😉 )

.. so, Plan B)?
check, wether you have an unwanted 'plugin' in your set-up, read advice here:
http://karsten.schluter.googlepages.com/im09losttransparencypatch
(don't get irritated by topic of site.. just check)

Nov 23, 2009 10:23 AM in response to Karsten Schlüter

Thanks much, Karsten. Really appreciate your time looking into this. Still can't imagine why I hit this bog. I'll check out your Google pages link later today. Meanwhile, I sent the hi-res raw DV files to a trusted comrade who made it all work in Final Cut... but I'd love to see your solution if you'd care to send a link (tried clicking the graphic you posted, but it wasn't clickable).

Argh. The torture never stops.

OK. Thanks again. Back to work I go... updating the Philomuse site in preparation for the official launch of the Muzundrum companion site on November 26. See: http://www.philomuse.com/products/muzundrum

best to you and yours - andy

Nov 23, 2009 3:03 PM in response to art101

art101 wrote:
Thanks for your reply, AppleMan1958. The original clips were all shot at 30 FPS, in native NTSC. I know the rules.

I used a pure "green screen" color and tried everything I could think of to make it work in iMovie... over and over and over again. It's not a camcorder issue. I repeat: iMovie's "green screen" feature has serious problems.

See: http://www.art101.com/101temp/imovie_madness

Art,
I noticed you switched the tracks from what iMovie expects... It's a bit counter-intuitive in iM, but you put the background track on the main video track first, and then drag-n-drop the green-screen video on top of the main track. I see in your pic that you have it reversed 🙂 I say this is counter-intuitive, as it's difficult to get the edits/timing right with the secondary vid track... Maybe iM10 will fix this!

Green screen does indeed work well within iM 🙂

Nov 23, 2009 5:05 PM in response to Karsten Schlüter

I bought the "planetarium" clip from an online service to which I subscribe. The guy who shot it receives a mechanical payment for my use of his video. Unlike most people on the 'net, I don't steal stuff.

Whatever. Let's just mark this issue closed. I still don't have a clear understanding of why iMovie went crazy when I followed the instructions to make a simple iMovie green screen effect. Apple doesn't care. Apple is way too busy selling junk on iTunes to bother with a longtime customer like me. I repeat: Shame on Apple and the iMovie team. iMovie's "green screen" feature has serious problems. It just doesn't work.

I'm done with this. Completely done wasting my time. Completely done trusting Apple. Steve Jobs should be ashamed of what's being done in his name.

http://www.art101.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HQfPnysR4g

Nov 23, 2009 8:04 PM in response to art101

I've spent good money on similar backgrounds too, I appreciate Karsten may have arrived at a wrong conclusion about your footage, however he has clearly been instrumental in solving an issue which was obviously one of misunderstanding on your part and deserves considerably more respect than the reply he has received.

You had an issue, a fellow user like yourself has given his time to help you resolve it.

Why depart on such a sour note and inexplainable rant.

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