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Java wont run at all on safari.

Hello there,
I have an issue, on my home computer java runs seamlessly in safari for windows, but here at my office, it just wont run, i downloaded the Sun JRE and installed with Admin priveleges, althought Safari 4 Win includes Apple JRE anyways, it is enabled in my preferences, but whenever i try to use the file manager in Webmin, or any other java applet on the web it just says "Java is Unavailable (SITE) tried to load java content but java is not installed or unavailable, would you like go to a page where you can download java?" and I did it again thinking maybe it required an earlier version, but still nothing. any help anyone can offer me i would be greatly appreciated
Cheers,
P.S. Im running WXP Pro, and JREs 6u1, 6u17

Message was edited by: tyler.paquette

iPhone 3GS 16 GB Blk, iPhone OS 3.1.2, Dell XPS M1730 Laptop/Win7

Posted on Dec 1, 2009 9:09 AM

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Dec 1, 2009 9:20 AM in response to tyler.paquette

Experimental advice/troubleshooting here I'm afraid, tyler.

Try heading into your Internet Options control panel. Click the Advanced tab. Scroll through the list of advanced options. What Java-related options can you see? Are they checked or unchecked?

(Thinking here I can try to cross match what you're seeing with what I'm seeing on my XP Pro SP3 box.)

Dec 1, 2009 9:56 AM in response to b noir

Version 6 Update 17 (build 1.6.0_17-b04) i also have version 6 update 1, but i installed that a few minutes ago, i saw someone had gotten an earlier version to work. oh, and heres something weird
Apple Java Plug-In
Apple Java Plug-In — from file “npJavaPlugin.dll”.
MIME Type Description
application/x-java-applet Java Applet
thats the only listing in my Safari plugins listing for java, though i hear that Safari isn't technically supported by sun Java, thus it uses Apple JRE

Dec 1, 2009 10:12 AM in response to tyler.paquette

Apple Java Plug-In — from file “npJavaPlugin.dll”.


Hmmm. More experimentation ... but maybe there's an issue with your Safari Java plug-in?

Let's try swapping it out.

First, quit Safari.

Now navigate to C:\Program Files\Safari\Plugins\ (or to whichever drive your Safari is installed on).

Drag the npJavaPlugin.dll out of that folder onto your Desktop.

Now launch Safari again, using either the Start Menu or the Desktop shortcut. That should provoke a *repair install* of Safari (you'll see a "configuring" message before Safari launches). That repair install will replace the plugin dll.

Does the performance with Java on webpages improve with the fresh dll in place?

Dec 29, 2009 12:44 PM in response to b noir

Hi,
I wasn't sure if this thread had already been closed or not, but if its still open, I'd like to chime in with some comments of my own, as well.

I too have been experiencing very similar issues with my edition of Safari for Windows. I am running Windows Vista Basic, and my version of Safari is 4.0.4.

I followed the instructions you gave to the person who started this thread, and after restarting Safari, I am still receiving the same error I was receiving before. Here is what the error says:

_+*"Pogo.com games use the Java plug-in. You either do not have Java installed or you have a version that is incompatible with our games. It does not cost you anything to install Java.*+_
_+*Do you want to install the Java plug-in now?"*+_

Well, I know for a fact that I have Java installed on this machine, and it has been enabled for use with Safari.

Here is the version of Java which I have presently installed on my machine. Aside from v. 17, I also have versions 1-7, which all show enabled as well.

Name Java Plug-in 1.6.0_17
Publisher Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Status Enabled
File date Sunday, October 11, 2009, 4:17 AM
Version 1.6.0.17

I have attempted (more times than I can remember) uninstalling and then re-installing Java on this machine, and I am still receiving this same error.

Can you please help?

Thanks!

Dec 30, 2009 1:38 PM in response to Louis8ball

"Pogo.com games use the Java plug-in. You either do not have Java installed or you have a version that is incompatible with our games. It does not cost you anything to install Java. Do you want to install the Java plug-in now?"


Interesting, Louis. Haven't seen that one reported before. (Still, systematic Safari 4.0.4 for Windows troubleshooting is pretty much a work-in-progress, so the fact that I haven't seen it before doesn't necessarily amount to much.)

This is the first thing that occurs to me after doing a bit of research. By any chance, does your ISP use Slipstream SP web acceleration? If so, it might be worth trying the following "Image Setting" workaround:

[Why do some Java-applets (such as certain games on www.pogo.com) not work?|http://www.slipstream.com/our solutions/troubleshooting.html#use_Web8]

Any luck with pogo after that?

Dec 30, 2009 9:31 PM in response to b noir

Yes, they are enabled, and have been for much (if not all) of the time I have been experiencing this issue.

I also just uninstalled and re-installed Safari for Windows, and did the same with Java (did it twice with Java) just now. And lo and behold, I am still experiencing the exact same error message at Pogo.

Does anyone know if, when we download (or update) the newest Java version, does it need to be installed in a specific folder within Safari? If so, where? Can someone give me the file path, please?

Thanks!

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Dec 30, 2009 10:30 PM in response to Louis8ball

Well, I'm happy to say, I just found a workaround to my issue, and it seems to work just fine. For anyone who might be interested, here is one way to get there:

Edit>Preferences>Advanced>Make sure that the "Show Develop Menu in Menu Bar" option is CHECKED.

Then, whenever you find yourself at a site where you are receiving a message which tells you that you do not have Java installed on your machine (even though you know that you do), then do the following:

Click on "Develop" (at top of screen, between "Bookmarks" and "Window" (minus quotations)), then select "User Agent", and then click on your version of Safari, but make sure you select the one which says "MAC" after it (yes, even though we are all using Safari for Windows here).

For example, I have Safari 4.0.4 installed on my machine. So under "User Agent", I click on "Safari 4.0.4 --- Mac", and now I am able to play the games @ Pogo.

Granted, this procedure might need to be repeated each and every time I change locations within the Pogo game site, but at least I am now able to participate at that website using Safari for Windows.

Cheers!

Dec 31, 2009 11:37 AM in response to Louis8ball

🙂 Thanks again, Louis.

If you've got the time, would you mind putting a bug report through to Apple? (With your Menu Bar up, navigate to the page that gives you the Java grief at Pogo and then go "Help > Report bugs to Apple". You can attach the page source and a screenshot in the bug report form.) Fingers crossed, that might speed things up with regard to getting a proper resolution for the issue.

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