5 Replies Latest reply: Dec 15, 2009 9:40 AM by Klaus1
Robert Gillam Level 1 Level 1 (50 points)
Hi, I have tried for a few days now to get Safari 4 running properly and have now reached the stage where I would like to uninstall Safari 4 and re-install Safari 3 to see this helps matters (I can use software updater at a later date).
How does one achieve this?
TIA

Powermac G4 Giga-Ethernet Dual 1.2ghz 100bus 2 Gig Ram 2x500gb+120gb ATI 9800, Mac OS X (10.4.11), 20"ACD. Wireless network. Powermac G4 DA 933Ghz 128Gb 1.5Gb wireless jukebox
  • Klaus1 Level 8 Level 8 (45,435 points)
    Those who for some reason do not want to continue using the fastest, safest version of Safari (4.0.3) and want to revert back to an older version, rather than find out how to correct their faulty system, can do so by performing an archive and install:

    How to Archive & Install:

    http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107120

    An alternative strategy, if you really don't like Safari, is to try one or more of the many other browsers available for the Mac. They are listed here:

    http://www.pure-mac.com/webb.html

    But there may be another way, BUT this is for TIGER users only:

    Download Safari 3.2.3 from Apple's Download page. http://support.apple.com/downloads/Safari3_2_3_forTiger

    Quit Safari.
    Delete Safari
    Delete the receipts file at /Library/Receipts/Safari4.0Tiger.pkg
    Empty Trash

    Mount the Safari 3.2.3 dmg file and install it.
    Restart your Mac
    Repair permissions

    All should be good with Safari 3.2.3.

    I am unable to verify whether this works. Try it and post back with results!
  • Robert Gillam Level 1 Level 1 (50 points)
    Thanks Klaus for your prompt reply, you sound like you know what you are talking about.
    I have followed your (and others) advice posted in other threads on how to remedy the malfunction, thats how I have spent the few days, I really have tried hard to fix it.
    I have Firefox Opera and Outlook but I much prefer using Safari, it's just this crawling issue is something I cannot tolerate, as I use the internet extensively during the day.
    I will try what you have suggested and reply to you as soon as I have completed your instructions.
    P.S. by "delete Safari" do you mean drag its icon from the apps folder to the trash?
    I have a "clean" OS disk mounted on my desk top, can I copy and drag Safari from that disks apps folder to my daily HD?
    TIA

    Message was edited by: Robert Gillam
  • Klaus1 Level 8 Level 8 (45,435 points)
    by "delete Safari" do you mean drag its icon from the apps folder to the trash?

    Yes, I assume that is what he means. An older version of safari will not install if it detects a newer version in your system.

    As for your 'crawling issue' try this first:

    (First, if yours is an Intel Mac, check that Safari is not running in Rosetta, which is enough to slow it to a crawl. If you are running Snow Leopard, run Safari in 32 bit not 64 bit.)

    Do you have enough RAM? Less than 1GB can cause slowness. Is your hard drive too full? Less than 15%, or 15GB, of free space can also cause slowness.

    Adding DNS codes to your Network Settings, should give good results in terms of speed-up as well as added security:

    Open System Preferences/Network. Double click on your connection type, or select it in the drop-down menu, and in the box marked 'DNS Servers' add the following two numbers:

    208.67.222.222
    208.67.220.220

    (You can also enter them if you click on Advanced and then DNS)

    (An explanation of why that is both safe and a good idea can be read here: http://www.labnol.org/internet/tools/opendsn-what-is-opendns-why-required-2/2587 /

    Open DNS also provides an anti-phishing feature: http://www.opendns.com/solutions/homenetwork/anti-phishing/ )

    Wikipedia also has an interesting article about Open DNS:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDNS

    Whilst in System Preferences/Network you should also turn off 'IPv6' in your preference pane, as otherwise you may not get the full speed benefit (the DNS resolver will default to making SRV queries). If you want to know what IPv6 is:

    This is Apple's guidance on iPv6:

    http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=Mac/10.5/en/8708.html

    Click on Apply Now and close the window.

    Restart Safari, and repair permissions.

    If that didn't do it, then try this as well:

    Empty Safari's cache (from the Safari menu), then close Safari.

    Go to Home/Library/Safari and delete the following files:

    form values
    download.plist

    Then go to Home/Library/Preferences and delete

    com.apple.Safari.plist

    Repair permissions (in Disk Utility).

    Start up Safari again, and things should have improved.

    More useful information here:

    http://guides.macrumors.com/SpeedupSafari
  • Robert Gillam Level 1 Level 1 (50 points)
    Thanks Klaus, I solved it by using Finder to locate anything to do with Safari (inc. reciepts) and trashing it.
    I dragged the clean copy of Safari from my second HD and dropped it the apps folder of my daily HD, rebooted, and hey presto...... all is rosy.
    I even remembered to drag my bookmarks plist and archive to the desktop first!!

    I guess that Safari 4 just doesn't like my 10.4.11 OS in my trusty old G4 Giga ethernet.
    Thanks for your help anyway
  • Klaus1 Level 8 Level 8 (45,435 points)
    I guess that Safari 4 just doesn't like my 10.4.11 OS in my trusty old G4 Giga ethernet.

    It should do, but for Safari 4.0.3 to work in Tiger it is essential that you have installed security update 2009-002 or later:

    Tiger System Requirements
    Mac OS X Tiger 10.4.11 and Security Update 2009-002 or later
    Top Sites and Cover Flow require a Quartz Extreme compatible video card