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  • dmader Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Dear all,

    my problem isn't really the indexing, but the last message from Time Machine Buddy is "Waiting for index to be ready (101)", so I put the message here.

    My real problem: My backup size is approx. 5GB which I try to save on (empty, just formatted) 120 GB harddrive. Time Machine starts the backup as usual by counting up X in it's context menu (X / 5 GB). But when X reaches 5GB, both sides are moving up equally until the disk size is exceeded. Then I get the error "Not enough space".

    Backups have worked perfectly until last week the plug of the external HD slipped out during backup, and now there seems to be a corrupted file anywhere.

    Already deleted Library/Preferences/com.apple.TimeMachine... (or however it's called), but this seems to be not enough.

    Help, anyone?

    Thanks a lot,
    Daniel

    ***********Output of Buddy************
    Starting standard backup
    Backing up to: /Volumes/Backup/Backups.backupdb
    Ownership is disabled on the backup destination volume. Enabling.
    Backup content size: 139.3 GB excluded items size: 134.9 GB for volume Macintosh HD
    No pre-backup thinning needed: 5.28 GB requested (including padding), 111.26 GB available
    Waiting for index to be ready (101)
  • Pondini Level 8 Level 8 (38,715 points)
    dmader wrote:
    . . .
    Backups have worked perfectly until last week the plug of the external HD slipped out during backup, and now there seems to be a corrupted file anywhere.


    Yes, that can happen if the connection is interrupted. Repair your backups, per #A5 in Time Machine - Troubleshooting (or use the link in *User Tips* at the top of this forum).

    While you're at it, verify your internal HD, too.
  • ozcrossbow Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Hi Pondini, have tried doing a first backup on a clean 500Gb Time Capsule (deleted previous sparse bundle from earlier attempts) - backing up 91Gb went for around 32 hours copying files, then went to indexing backup and sat there for over 12 hours - no change on the progress Bar. Connected directly to time capsule through ethernet.
    Made sure there are no spaces in MacBook name
    This is the 3rd time I have tried - getting a bit frustrated now, would really appreciate some advice as to what I should do.

    Details from widget are as follows:

    Starting standard backup
    Attempting to mount network destination using URL: afp://Allan%20Bowes@Insotec.local/Data
    Mounted network destination using URL: afp://Allan%20Bowes@Insotec.local/Data
    Creating disk image /Volumes/Data-1/MacBookProThree.sparsebundle
    QUICKCHECK ONLY; FILESYSTEM CLEAN
    Disk image /Volumes/Data-1/MacBookProThree.sparsebundle mounted at: /Volumes/Time Machine Backups
    Backing up to: /Volumes/Time Machine Backups/Backups.backupdb
    Ownership is disabled on the backup destination volume. Enabling.
    Detected system migration from: /Volumes/LaCie
    Backup content size: 114.1 GB excluded items size: 15.4 GB for volume Macintosh HD
    No pre-backup thinning needed: 118.47 GB requested (including padding), 463.19 GB available
    Waiting for index to be ready (101)
    Copied 4.8 GB of 98.7 GB, 18152 of 879375 items
    Copied 7.7 GB of 98.7 GB, 34314 of 879375 items
    Copied 10.8 GB of 98.7 GB, 55188 of 879375 items
    Copied 12.7 GB of 98.7 GB, 139459 of 879375 items
    Copied 16.7 GB of 98.7 GB, 157079 of 879375 items
    Copied 21.8 GB of 98.7 GB, 168994 of 879375 items
    Copied 26.9 GB of 98.7 GB, 182847 of 879375 items
    Copied 31.4 GB of 98.7 GB, 195080 of 879375 items
    Copied 37.3 GB of 98.7 GB, 197391 of 879375 items
    Copied 43.4 GB of 98.7 GB, 197857 of 879375 items
    Copied 48.7 GB of 98.7 GB, 197857 of 879375 items
    Copied 54.4 GB of 98.7 GB, 197857 of 879375 items
    Copied 61.0 GB of 98.7 GB, 198254 of 879375 items
    Copied 67.4 GB of 98.7 GB, 198388 of 879375 items
    Copied 73.2 GB of 98.7 GB, 227886 of 879375 items
    Copied 77.3 GB of 98.7 GB, 297150 of 879375 items
    Copied 82.9 GB of 98.7 GB, 318952 of 879375 items
    Copied 87.7 GB of 98.7 GB, 331521 of 879375 items
    Copied 88.5 GB of 98.7 GB, 332046 of 879375 items
    Copied 89.4 GB of 98.7 GB, 333226 of 879375 items
    Copied 90.2 GB of 98.7 GB, 334035 of 879375 items
    Copied 91.1 GB of 98.7 GB, 344784 of 879375 items
    Copied 91.1 GB of 98.7 GB, 344784 of 879375 items
    Copied 344785 files (91.3 GB) from volume Macintosh HD.
    No pre-backup thinning needed: 14.32 GB reques

    This was how it finished - did not change during the 12+ hours of indexing. In the end I cancelled backup as nothing was happening and I need to to my MBP out to see a client
  • Pondini Level 8 Level 8 (38,715 points)
    ozcrossbow wrote:
    Hi Pondini, have tried doing a first backup on a clean 500Gb Time Capsule (deleted previous sparse bundle from earlier attempts) - backing up 91Gb went for around 32 hours copying files,


    That's awful performance! Something is very wrong. That would be terrible for WIFI, much less Ethernet!

    As a very rough comparison, I get about 21 GB/hour, on average, via Ethernet (it varies during the backup).

    Copied 344785 files (91.3 GB) from volume Macintosh HD.
    No pre-backup thinning needed: 14.32 GB reques


    It finished the first pass normally (but very slowly), and was starting to do a second pass of the things that had changed during the first pass.

    Try the things in #D2 of Time Machine - Troubleshooting (or use the link in *User Tips* at the top of this forum).

    It's a long shot, but also verify your internal HD, per #A5 there.

    How old is this TC? The 500 GB models have been out of production for a while; if nothing else helps, the HD inside it may be starting to fail (they are mechanical beasties, after all, with tiny bearings and moving parts).

    If you have AppleCare on a Mac purchased within 2 years of the TC, the TC is covered, too.
  • ozcrossbow Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Hi Pondini,
    many thanks for your quick reply. We bought a refurbished TC from Apple earlier this year. I tried backing up to it 4 or 5 times with no success so had it replaced last month under warranty. My MBP is 1 month old, i7 model 500Gb HD 8Gb RAM. I will verify the internal HD.

    It is the first backup and I haven't excluded any folders, perhaps I should try that? I'm not running Tech Tool Pro or Arpeture.

    The Time Capsule is set up to join our wireless network, and we have a printer attached to it's USB port. The printer is accessible to our other computers and works OK. As mentioned we are connected directly between the MBP and TC.

    Would welcome your thoughts

    Thanks Allan
  • Pondini Level 8 Level 8 (38,715 points)
    ozcrossbow wrote:
    Hi Pondini,
    many thanks for your quick reply. We bought a refurbished TC from Apple earlier this year. I tried backing up to it 4 or 5 times with no success so had it replaced last month under warranty.


    They replaced it with another 500 GB model? If so, that's got to be another refurb unit. Nothing wrong with them (my iMac and Airport are refurbs), but it could have an "iffy" disk that might seem to test ok.

    My MBP is 1 month old, i7 model 500Gb HD 8Gb RAM. I will verify the internal HD.

    It is the first backup and I haven't excluded any folders, perhaps I should try that?


    Only if there are things you don't want to back up. TM was designed to back up your entire system (except for some system work files, caches, trash, etc., that it excludes automatically).

    I'm not running Tech Tool Pro or Arpeture.


    Have you turned off any anti-virus scanning, and excluded the TC from Spotlight temporarily?

    The Time Capsule is set up to join our wireless network, and we have a printer attached to it's USB port. The printer is accessible to our other computers and works OK. As mentioned we are connected directly between the MBP and TC.


    Just to rule it out, disconnect the printer, and do as little as possible with all other devices on the network.

    I hate to have you erase the TC, but you need to get to the bottom of this. Use Airport utility.

    Then try another backup.

    If nothing helps, it sure seems to be the TC.
  • ozcrossbow Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Many thanks, I will do another backup. Haven't excluded TC from Spotlight, will try this. No AV running and will disconnect the printer. Will run the backup overnight so that should reduce network traffic.

    Thanks for you help
  • Pondini Level 8 Level 8 (38,715 points)
    ozcrossbow wrote:
    Many thanks, I will do another backup. Haven't excluded TC from Spotlight, will try this. No AV running and will disconnect the printer. Will run the backup overnight so that should reduce network traffic.


    If you can, try to watch it for a while, once it gets started actually copying. Make a rough estimate of the speed. If not, the messages will tell you -- it sends one every hour.

    Cross thy fingers!
  • ltarbox Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
    I am having the same problem of Time Machine getting stuck on Indexing Backup for days at a time. I installed the TM Buddy Widget and it's running, but I'm stuck on Indexing Backup again, so I can't get a report from the widget. I'm really frustrated with this. Any other ideas for me?

    I am backing up to a 1TB Lacie drive that is connected to my MacBook Pro through a FireWire cable. It is not a networked drive. My oldest backup is April 27, 2010 and my latest backup was November 10, 2010. I think it's been "indexing" consistently since the 10th - over a week!

    Oh - and I did run the Repair Disk utility on my EHD and everything looked fine.

    Message was edited by: ltarbox
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