Can Pages make Wine Labels?

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Is he going to print them himself? If so, I would say that Pages can do it. Relative ease? Ease is always related to knowledge and experience. Pages is not hard to learn but at first may be confusing. Job #1: Download the manual from the Help menu and read it.

If he's going to have the labels commercially printed, that's a whole different story. I don't think "relative ease" applies here. Best "easy" advise: take a PDF sample to a print shop and ask them if they can print it, or what they might need to do so. I have had things printed with no problems, Others relate another story.

Walt

For curved text he will need another app, something like Art Text.

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Have a look at the two wine label templates on http://iworkcommunity.com/ . Use wine as search word. The templates could be a starting point.

ABSOLUTELY!

I get away with MURDER using Pages. I've used it INSTEAD of Illustrator and/or InDesign for ANY AND ALL print jobs. Why? Mostly because I can, but also to prove a point that you no longer need to invest the time and expense necessary to learn and wield an Adobe product for a LOT of different design jobs.

Most of the time, my various printers have no problem "ripping" the exported PDF I send them. Otherwise, I'm just VERY cognizant of the elements I USE in my layouts. I conform all my raster images and illustrations to RGB BEFORE I put them into a Pages Document....(I address CMYK conversion below)

But back to your request specifically.

I am actually about to lay out a new label for a bottle. I will connect with my print shop before I get too deep into the project, and just make sure I'm not painting myself into a corner. You MUST take into consideration your OUTPUT before setting off using any particular tool.

So...firstly...offset or digital press? Because, for SOME reason, Pages renders in the RGB colorspace, not CMYK. No clue why, but that's the way it is.

But there are other posts here in the Apple Discussions regarding workarounds for color-space conversions.

Now...if you DO have the Adobe apps, they work GREAT in concert with Pages. I FREQUENTLY place elements I made in an Adobe app in the layout of a Pages document. I prefer Pages for layout for a variety of interface-related reasons.

Hope that helps.

Yes, I use Pages to make labels for my wine bottles. Your friend can buy plan generic wine labels & use text boxes to generate the labels. I have not used Avery labels to see what would work. I see no reason why one could not use Avery's 4 or 6 per sheet shipping labels.

No worries. best of luck...but if you want to call a local print shop, they'll quote the job for you and have a look at your file (exported as a PDF). Just find a shop and give 'em a ring.

Eric Nentrup wrote:
ABSOLUTELY!

I get away with MURDER using Pages. I've used it INSTEAD of Illustrator and/or InDesign for ANY AND ALL print jobs. Why? Mostly because I can, but also to prove a point that you no longer need to invest the time and expense necessary to learn and wield an Adobe product for a LOT of different design jobs.

I take it none requiring bleed, trim marks, slugs, spreads, spot colors, specials, dye cuts or usable transparency.

Most of the time, my various printers have no problem "ripping" the exported PDF I send them. Otherwise, I'm just VERY cognizant of the elements I USE in my layouts. I conform all my raster images and illustrations to RGB BEFORE I put them into a Pages Document....(I address CMYK conversion below)

But back to your request specifically.

I am actually about to lay out a new label for a bottle. I will connect with my print shop before I get too deep into the project, and just make sure I'm not painting myself into a corner. You MUST take into consideration your OUTPUT before setting off using any particular tool.

So...firstly...offset or digital press? Because, for SOME reason, Pages renders in the RGB colorspace, not CMYK. No clue why, but that's the way it is.

Not true.

.pdf exports and print to .pdf are both in cmyk. Curious what this has to do with "offset or digital press" neither of which want rgb files.

But there are other posts here in the Apple Discussions regarding workarounds for color-space conversions.

Really. Any that are actually detailed, or work?

Now...if you DO have the Adobe apps, they work GREAT in concert with Pages. I FREQUENTLY place elements I made in an Adobe app in the layout of a Pages document. I prefer Pages for layout for a variety of interface-related reasons.

Hmmm. I am experienced in many DTP applications and that is exactly why I do not use Pages.

Peter

Because, for SOME reason, Pages renders in the RGB colorspace, not CMYK. No clue why, but that's the way it is.

John Gnaegy, ColorSync List Master: ColorSync is and RGB peg in a CMYK hole.

You MUST take into consideration your OUTPUT before setting off using any particular tool.

Correct, but if you begin by creating colours in the four channel colourant model, even if you do so with your four channels managed by a CIE standard colour space as you do when working in CMYK through an ICC PRTR Printer profile, you are creating colours in a device colour space which is not uniformly graybalanced. You definitely do not want to do that, if you are critical about the standalone colours you create. Furthermore, creating colours in the four channel colourant model means that a four channel ICC PRTR Printer profile becomes your tagged source profile for the objects you coloured with it. And if you are clumsy enough to change between ICC PRTR Printer profiles in creating colours, you get multiple such source CIE-managed spaces in your document master. If the interpolation is set to minimul and the grid point precision to maximal in generating the ICC PRTR Printer profiles, they will be about 1.5Mb each.

Either create colour in CIEL a*b D50 2 degree standard observer, if possible with a CIElCH (luminance, chroma, hue) human interface, or create colour in some CIE-managed device channel colour space of sufficient space to contain the colours your intended output devices are capable of forming. Note that sRGB which is now the Generic RGB Profile colour space is too small to create the colours an ISO 12647 offset printing condition on art paper is capable of forming, let alone the colours an inkjet printing condition on semiglossy and glossy paper is capable of forming.

/hh