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Aperture 3 hanging... and hanging... and chewing...

was totally stoked about upgrading today. now i'm kicking myself in the pants for doing it so quickly.

when i came home for lunch, i installed A3, typed in my purchased Upgrade serial, and then allowed A3 to upgrade my old A2 library. obviously, this was gonna take awhile, so i left it running whilst i went back to the office. when i returned home, i discovered my MBP had actually frozen. ok, that was weird. i had to do a hard shut down (hold down power button) and then reboot. everything comes back fine, i reopen A3, and its just processing "files." i let that go for about 15 minutes, come back, and the MBP has just sloooooowed to a crawl. i mean awful. it was like being at a concert: beach balls of death EVERYWHERE.

i didn't want to, but i had to force quit A3 to do anything else. so i did that, did a normal Restart, and then reopened A3. still processing, same chain of events. i mean, it was terrible.

so finally, FINALLY, i get down to the last 12 "files" or "items" or whatever, and A3 seems to be really stuck on these last 12. it'll just sit there and churn away whilst eating up all system resources and giving my BBODs whenever i move the cursor around.

so... what's going on here? i've tried repairing the database as outlined in the recently update Aperture manual (to no real end; didn't fix anything), and my next step, i suppose, is rebuilding the database. is anyone else having a problem like this? i've seen lots of folks having fairly terrible times with the move, but nothing quite like this. i've a fairly large library (not really giant by any means).

so: help!

2.26gHz Intel MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.6.2)

Posted on Feb 9, 2010 8:56 PM

441 replies

Feb 11, 2010 2:25 AM in response to lukelucas

Reading this thread actually has me quite worried about my eventual upgrade to Aperture 3.

I ordered it yesterday, and opted for the emailed serial to upgrade the Aperture 3 Trial figuring that would be the quickest way to get up and running. Apparently not, does anyone know why it takes between 2 and 6 days to have a serial number emailed to me?

Alistair

Feb 11, 2010 4:12 AM in response to lukelucas

I was trying the Aperture 3, I installed on my MBP that has 25GB free and I have 2GB of ram.
I imported 6 pictures into AP3 5 of them photobooth pictures and one 10MP image.
I had to shut it down 5/6 times since then, it got all unresponsive after using brushes.
I turned off Faces, Places .... and no improvement...
Since I start the program it starts on processing(the 6 files) and starts eating all memory and disk space available till I have to force quit.

Being using mac for 8 years and never saw a so badly finshed product.

Seems now only ipods,iphones and ipads are worth develop...

Is Apple forgetting about all the professional users that kept using Mac since the beginning?

Feb 11, 2010 4:14 AM in response to apple_enthusiast

The only reason I'm concerned is the progress bar was moving along and showing progress, but it has not moved in nearly 10 hours.

It's 7am and currently the progress bar has not moved an inch and still says "4% updating master metadata 41,128 remaining"

Before it was moving along and counting down steadily.

Currently the 24inch iMac is responsive and iStat process monitor says Aperture is using about 190% processes.

Will it pass this stone or should I reboot and try again?

Feb 11, 2010 4:53 AM in response to Community User

FWIW,

I had forgotten that we had the exact same thing with the update to Aperture 2. The progression dialog (then it was a simple bar) is not updated very efficiently IOW, the feedback is very poor.

However ... I have found this time, that when the Aperture update process really slows to a crawl, quitting Aperture ( NOT Force Quitting) by cancelling the task in the Activity Viewer window and choosing Quit from the Aperture menu, then re-launching Aperture, will HUGELY speed things up.

NOTE : It took sometimes +15 minutes+ for the process cancellation and Quit to be effected.

NOTE also ... if You're doing this on a Unibody MBPro with twin video cards installed, go to Energy Prefs and select 'Higher Performance'. You must do this before you start the upgrade process, because it requires a logout.

Feb 11, 2010 5:36 AM in response to Jim Warthman

Jim Warthman wrote:
The library upgrade process uses considerable disk space because it leaves your Aperture 2 library intact, and creates a new copy which it upgrades.

Seems to me that this is a good move, for safety.

This isn't really the case. My library is 256GB and my disk free space was only 70GB and it was able to upgrade the library on the second try after around 30 hours of work. The first attempt failed because Aperture used all 4GB of memory plus more than 60GB of swap space.

lukelucas Author

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Feb 11, 2010 5:49 AM in response to lukelucas

hello everyone...

for what its worth, i actually seem to have found a "solution."

i completely started over, from scratch, with just my A2 library. opened up A2, went through, and weeded out a couple weird, wonky projects. then i did the option+control thing and rebuilt the library.

repaired permissions, rebooted.

then i opened up A3, imported AND upgraded the library (figured i'd go ahead and just bite the bullet on that).

and, uh... its running like a charm, now. seriously. no hanging, no freezing. i've chosen to not go through and update all my older RAW files to the new processing version because frankly, i don't need to. i did update one newer project to the newer RAW processing because the images were unedited, and i've had no problems there either.

brushes and everything else new work fine.

so, uhh... yeah. i know many of you are still having huge troubles, but for now (for now, only!; something might still change) i believe i've fixed the problem on my end.

fwiw, my library is fully managed, no referencing. good luck to all of you.

Feb 11, 2010 5:58 AM in response to Jim Warthman

Update: This morning, the library upgrade is complete, and Aperture is chugging through the face detection. I believe this will take a while!

Also, the old library is gone. I believe it was kept intact during the upgrade, in case something failed. But at the end, Aperture must have removed the old library to reclaim the space.

Also, Aperture is not taking about 2 GB of my 8 GB ram. This still leaves quite a lot of free memory for other things...

Enoy!

Jim

Feb 11, 2010 6:01 AM in response to Chuck Bernard

Thanks, Chuck. Maybe Aperture keeps the original copy of the library if hard drive space allows, and maybe that improves the speed of the upgrade process.

I most definitely had two libraries, both ~75 GB, until I went to bed last night and the progress indicator was ~95% complete.

Enjoy!

Jim

Feb 11, 2010 6:13 AM in response to lukelucas

My problems only started after some strenuous work with several brushes adjustments, after 2 or 3 photos edited, it started to slow down, until it frozen my computer, No mouse, No Force quit...
Now every time I restart the A3 it starts processing again...
the most annoying thing is that I only have 6 photos in the library, and most of them a ridiculously small...

Feb 11, 2010 6:15 AM in response to lukelucas

I hate to barge in and I usually do not complain about apple stuff.. but yesterday I was really frustrated with Aperture 3 performance. At first it couldn't import anything from my iphoto library saying "processing" and after a few "forced quits" when I finally managed to do so I had terrible performance issues when trying to use (cough) cool new feature.. Brushes.. -- all of a sudden CPU coolers went crazy spinning @ 6000 rpm and ram usage for aperture app was around @ 1.6 GB..

Also at that time even mouse performance was a bit sluggish.

Man, even photoshop never done that to me .. and all I wanted is to test out brushes.

I'm not sure what machine you need to own to be able to run aperture 3 smoothly. I currently have the latest 2.8Ghz, 4GB RAM macbook pro.

Now I understand why the photographers in those new Aperture 3 "in action" videos seemed a little sad looking that their screens in starbucks. Maybe this application is the designed for the macs of the future.

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Feb 11, 2010 6:46 AM in response to lukelucas

I noticed something strange: it seems to worsen the problem if you pause background activities in the activity window. If I do that, the excessive swapping starts almost immediately.

Feb 11, 2010 7:01 AM in response to col4bin

I agree! I'm at 2.66 with 4 GB RAM and I get the spinning ball on just light moves. Hope they speed it up!

Feb 11, 2010 7:10 AM in response to lukelucas

I am having very similar experiences to others in this thread. Aperture grabs all of the real memory "processing" photos and slows the system to a crawl. I have about 8000 photos, most in the library, but about 500 referenced NEF files. I have gone through the "libraried" projects reprocessing the masters. This does not seem to have any impact. I get BBODs when I try to reprocess referenced files. I suspect that this is where the "processing" grinds to a halt too. I never get past the 5th item in the processing activity. Right now the application is unusable.

Feb 11, 2010 7:15 AM in response to Community User

I clicked APERTURE > QUIT

A second little progress bar opened titled "Updating Library...", it is counting up from 0 to 59137 (my number of masters)

It got to 29590 and then A3 crashed

I restarted my iMac

Clicked the A3 icon in the dock and got a small window that says "Upgrading Library: preparing to restart upgrade"

I need a coffee.

Feb 11, 2010 7:37 AM in response to flappleton

I have tried to cancel the "processing" activity. The status changes to "canceling" and like the bunny, it just keeps on going. I never get past "processing" item 5.

Aperture 3 hanging... and hanging... and chewing...