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apogee duet with external mic pre amp

8198 Views 12 Replies Latest reply: Feb 16, 2010 1:34 PM by oceanicrecords RSS
revolver87 Calculating status...
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Feb 14, 2010 2:47 AM
Hi guys,, just a quick question. I already have a focusrite isa one preamp which i love using. Have just bought an apogee one which should be delivered in the next few days. Am wondering does anyone out there use external mic pres with the duet and how does it sound.

I have heard reviews that the apogee mic pres are great so will vocals and giutars sound ok going through 2 preamps before my daw? Cheers in advance guys..
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  • tbirdparis Level 5 Level 5 (5,500 points)
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    Feb 14, 2010 3:24 AM (in response to revolver87)
    You're not forced to use 2 preamps.. If you want to use your existing preamps, you would just connect your source to your preamp as usual and then connect its output to the regular line level inputs on the Duet, which don't go through the Apogee's preamp. That way you'll be able to keep using the preamp sound that you like, and record as normal. Then, as an alternative, you can always connect your source to the mic input(s) on the Duet if you want to have access to a different preamp sound.
    MBP C2D 17" 2.33 / 3GB RAM / 500GB 7200rpm, Mac OS X (10.6.1), Logic Studio 9 / UAD2 Solo Laptop / Apogee Duet
  • Tegularius Level 1 Level 1 (20 points)
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    Feb 14, 2010 4:51 AM (in response to revolver87)
    Cascading the preamps doesn't make sense, you most likely will get a distorted and muffled signal. However you can record your microphone on both preamps simultaneously by splitting it. One signal goes thru your existing preamp and is recorded with line level, the other signal is connected to one of the Duet mic preamps. You can set the input levels for left and right channel separately on the Duet.
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  • Tom Hartman1 Level 1 Level 1 (115 points)
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    Feb 14, 2010 7:09 AM (in response to revolver87)
    You don't connect your external mic pre to the Duet mic pre input, you connect it to the LINE IN of the Duet.

    I use an API 512c mic pre going into the Duet line in and it sounds great.

    TH
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  • tbirdparis Level 5 Level 5 (5,500 points)
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    Feb 14, 2010 8:10 AM (in response to revolver87)
    Cheers for that. It was exactly the answer i was looking for. I could be wrong but im guessing the focusrite isa one would probably have slightly better preamps since its a specific product for that.


    Yes and no. Up to a point, you can sometimes say that yes, one preamp is better than another, especially when comparing cheap 'prosumer' gear like m-audio for example to something more respectable. But when there are quality components involved, it's never a simple matter of saying one is better than the other. For a start, different preamps interact differently with different mics, and then going beyond that, different combinations of mics and pres deliver different colour depending on the source material. So, once you're using quality gear, it really comes down to horses for courses. You might find that the Duet's preamp sound, combined with a certain mic you use, gets you a sound you prefer with say, a certain vocalist's timbre. Or in other cases, the focusrite might give you something nicer.
    This is why you find dozens of different preamps in the biggest studios.. if it were the case that one was just better than all the others, then logically they'd only have the best most expensive one.
    MBP C2D 17" 2.33 / 3GB RAM / 500GB 7200rpm, Mac OS X (10.6.1), Logic Studio 9 / UAD2 Solo Laptop / Apogee Duet
  • SeattleMoose Level 2 Level 2 (170 points)
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    Feb 14, 2010 9:36 AM (in response to revolver87)
    I use the following preamps into the line inputs of the Duet:

    Presonus ADL600 - tube pre provides warmer sound that good but "clear" native Duet preamps
    UA Solo 610 - another warm preamp
    Daking PreOne - solid state pre that has its own vibe

    The excellent A/D converters in the Duet allow the character of each of these Pres to come thru.

    BTW..the preamps in duet are quite good but have no "flavor" per se. I use them on occasion but if I want "mojo" I go with one of the above external Preamps.

    Best of luck!!!!
    MacBook Pro 15 SR 2.2GHz, Mac OS X (10.5.8), 160 GB 7200 RPM / 4G Ram / Duet
  • oceanicrecords Level 1 Level 1 (35 points)
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    Feb 16, 2010 1:34 PM (in response to Tom Hartman1)
    Well, actually you do connect an external pre to the mic inputs on the duet, you just change the setting in the maestro software for the input to function as a +4 XLR line-in and it bypasses the pre (it can also be changed to -10 line-in, or switched back to mic-in. The LINE-IN inputs on the DUET don't give you the flexibility to switch between balanced/unbalanced line levels.

    Steve
    iMac G5 PPC 2.1ghz, 2gig ram, Mac OS X (10.4.11), Logic 8, MCU, AMT8, Onyx 1620 w/fwire, Duet, GR pre, Buzz Soc

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