Adaptec SCSI card

I've had a back-up tape drive working (just fine) on a G4 400 running OS X 10.3.9 for a couple of years. I want to move this tape drive to a newer (old) computer, a G4 1.25 now running 10.4.11. I dug around and found the Adaptec driver I apparently installed to enable the SCSI card 2906 on the G4 400. On the newer computer with the newer OS, though, I'm getting kernel attacks.

I searched the Adaptec site for a newer driver, and there are none. In fact, they indicate "the version 1.1 driver is embedded in Mac OS X 10.2 and later, there is no need to download and install this driver if you are running Mac OS X 10.2 or later."

I guess my question is, does anyone know if this driver is still embedded in Mac OS 10.4? If so, do you know what it's called - where it's located, so I can make sure it's there. (I actually installed the driver I had from several years ago, so if it wasn't there, it should have been then, but I still had kernel attacks.) Any other ideas on this problem?

Thanks.

Ginny

G4 1.25, Mac OS X (10.4.11)

Posted on Mar 3, 2010 2:25 PM

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Mar 3, 2010 3:06 PM in response to Ginny Pressly

Hopefully Michael is right about 10.4, but I find this...

Adaptec 2906 2 Port SCSI Card G3/G4 (PCI)...

System Requirements
O/S SUPPORT: Macintosh OS 8.6, 9.0, 9.0.2, 9.0.3, 9.0.4, 9.1, 9.2.x
Mac OS X 10.1.x, 10.2.x, 10.3.x
Mac OS X Server 10.1.x, 10.2.x, 10.3.x


http://www.welovemacs.com/ava2906.html

There is a 1.3 Driver...

http://www.rocketdownload.com/program/adaptec-2906-driver-64699.html

Then there is SCSIProbe - 5.2...

http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macos/3935&vid=3944

Mar 3, 2010 3:57 PM in response to Michael Wasley

Ginny,

Digging around the Adaptec site I came across this: http://tinyurl.com/yba8kfs

Looking in my 10.4.11 System/Library/Extensions folder I see Adaptec290x-2930.version 1.1.0 which appears to be what you will need. It got there from the 10.4 install/update, not by any action on my part.

SCSIProbe which BDAqua refers to is, I think, only of any use in OS9 where the Adaptec SCSI would not mount. I never needed it in OSX.

The 1.3 driver (links didn't work for me) was interesting as I had 1.2 which caused problems with energy saving in OS9 and meant I had to use MacDim. Some of those problems seemed to reappear running in Classic in OSX.

Michael

Mar 3, 2010 11:52 PM in response to Ginny Pressly

On my 10.4.11 system I have the following Adaptec extensions (my MDD had one of those SCSI cards, but I removed it since I don't use it)

/System/Library/Extensions/
drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 102 Feb 20 2002 Adaptec290X-2930.kext
drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 102 Dec 16 2002 Adaptec29160x.kext
drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 102 Dec 16 2002 Adaptec39160.kext
drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 102 Mar 7 2006 Adaptec78XXSCSI.kext

If you are missing these from your 10.4 installation, you should be able to extract those files from the OS X DVD using Pacifist, rather than reinstalling the entire system.

http://www.charlessoft.com/Pacifist_Documentation/English/index.html

Mar 4, 2010 1:34 PM in response to Glen Doggett

Thanks, all, for the suggestions. I'm totally flustered with this issue. Been working on it most of the day! According to what BDAqua found, I see that this card may not work with OS 10.4, but kind of hard to believe it wouldn't. (Hope that's just a post that was only current up through the 10.3 era.) The "Ask Adaptec" site Michael found does include 10.4.

I did find that 1.3 driver, and it is designed for Classic - not OS X (as is the SCSI probe). Fact is, this computer also runs an old (but still good) scanner booted in Classic mode, and everything is working great from that side. (Only use the scanner 4-5 times a year - hate to buy a new one when it still works.)

I do seem to have all the possible, appropriate extensions in OS X. In fact, I dumped all and reinstalled them through Pacifist. Still have the problem. This tape drive is accessed only through Retrospect, and I'm wondering if something in Retrospect is causing the problem instead of the SCSI connection, but I thought kernel panics were generally hardware related. When I access the drive in Retrospect (like to configure it), even if I don't "use" it, I get a kernel panic when I close Retrospect. If I try to restore a file, as it searches a tape, I get a kernel panic.

I examined the kernel panic log. Obviously, it doesn't mean much, but the text on every crash ends with:
com.apple.iokit.SCSITaskUserClienp
or
com.apple.iokit.SCSITaskUserClient(1.4.9) . . . and some numbers/letters.

I also see "SCSI" in a couple of other places in the report, so I do believe it's a SCSI problem, but I'm baffled.

I might reinstall Retrospect and see if it helps, but I'm not optimistic that it will. Guess I might also try installing 10.3 in a partition that already exists on the drive, boot in 10.3 and see if the SCSI connection starts working. (If it would, guess I'd have to reformat the drive, reinstall everything and stop with the 10.3 install.)

Any other ideas?

Thanks,
Ginny

Mar 4, 2010 2:17 PM in response to Ginny Pressly

Ginny,

If your SCSI scanner works in 10.4 that suggests there is no Adaptec/10.4 issue per se.

I have no experience of Retrospect, but it might help others who do if you were to say which version you are using.

The old standby of repairing permissions may not achieve anything but would, if you haven't already tried it, at least give an illusion of doing something.

Michael

Mar 4, 2010 2:33 PM in response to Michael Wasley

The scanner only works in 9.2 - have to totally reboot the computer in Classic to use it. Since it works, though, it leads me to believe the actual SCSI card hasn't gone bad. (Also, when I do an "about this Mac" in 10.4, the card and tape drive also show up, and it doesn't crash at that time.)

I might mention that the SCSI chain is same as it was on the original computer this was set up on (in 10.3), in fact, I removed one SCSI device that was between the scanner and tape drive. Addresses do not duplicate, and the tape drive terminates the chain, as it did before.

Retrospect is version 6.1. I did repair the permissions after I got the computer totally set up (I'd hoped), but might do it again tomorrow morning. Can't hurt.

I'm still thinking it's a SCSI hardware issue but which may be caused by a software issue. Can't imagine Retrospect could cause it, but maybe.

Thanks,
Ginny

Mar 5, 2010 6:19 AM in response to Michael Wasley

The scanner software will only work when the computer is booted in native OS9 - not when starting Classic within OSX. It's old, but works great the few times a year we need it!

This tells me, though, that the SCSI card and my SCSI chain is "healthy." There's just something in OSX that's causing me a problem. (Perhaps I should figure out which version of Retrospect last worked in OS9, install it and check the tape drive connection in native OS9 on this "new" computer???)

I'm also thinking about reinstalling Retrospect and rebuilding everything from scratch, as much as I hate to do this. (I really don't like Retrospect - it's a pain to work with (and perhaps all backup software is a pain), but it works for our small group, and it's cheaper to upgrade it as needed rather than buy into something all new.)

And maybe it will just "magically" work this morning??? (Ha Ha!)

Thanks,
Ginny

Mar 17, 2010 1:23 PM in response to BDAqua

Well, finally figured out that, in spite of the Adaptec extensions showing up in OS 10.4, this Adaptec SCSI card is not compatible with Tiger - at least in its communications with Retrospect. I reconfigured the G4 1.25 back to 10.3.9, and all is well. One person in the Retrospect forum, in particular, was very knowledgeable and helpful on this.

So, we're probably set for another year or two, until we need more space for our backups, at which time, will hopefully be able to get away from SCSI!

Ginny

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