8 Replies Latest reply: May 27, 2010 7:30 PM by Orb Akustik
woldemor99 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
Hi Apple Support,

like many other users, i can still not use the itunes store, because there is still no lossless music files available... where is the problem in providing lossless music?
i should pay 9.99US$ for a cd in compressed format??? I still buy the cd and import it lossless in itunes.

I would love to use your store! Make your music available in apple lossless...

Daniel.

Macbook Air, Mac OS X (10.5.8)
  • Zevoneer Level 9 Level 9 (52,700 points)
    You can send feedback/feature requests directly to Apple at this link: Apple Product Feedback
  • Chris CA Level 9 Level 9 (76,980 points)
    like many other users, i can still not use the itunes store, because there is still no lossless music files available...

    You mean you choose not to use the store because it is not lossless?
    Or are you having problems which means you cannot use it?
  • ed2345 Level 7 Level 7 (20,585 points)
    woldemor99 wrote:
    Hi Apple Support,

    there is still no lossless music files available... where is the problem in providing lossless music?


    Daniel, There is no problem selling lossless music. Many online music retailers sell lossless files. Check out hdtracks.com, livedownloads.com, beatport.com, and linnrecords.com, for example.

    They use either WAV or FLAC. WAV can play directly in iTunes. FLAC must be converted to one of the iTunes-compatible lossless formats.
  • M B1 Level 1 Level 1 (65 points)
    I agree with OP. Its crazy that iTunes, the larges catalog of online music, does not sell in lossless format.

    The other retailers listed in the post above have an extremely limited catalog.

    Apple, wake up!
  • ed2345 Level 7 Level 7 (20,585 points)
    M B1 wrote:

    The other retailers listed in the post above have an extremely limited catalog.


    They have a considerably larger selection of lossless music than does the iTunes Store, which has none at all.

    Apple, wake up!


    Feel free to provide feedback to Apple using the link provided by Zevoneer.
  • Orb Akustik Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Apple may not have enough financial motivation to offer a wide variety of lossless tracks, but if we clamor for it, send the message daily, and provided Moore's Law remains in effect, yes we'll get there. I don't think one necessarily needs refined ears to sense the difference. Try as an experiment, listening to your digital music player for five hours with compressed music, and then another day with lossless high quality. Listener fatigue sets in more rapidly and thoroughly with the former.
  • Chris CA Level 9 Level 9 (76,980 points)
    I suggest that easily +75% of users could not care less about lossless vs. 256 kbps (or even 128 kbps).

    I'm not saying there is not a noticable difference, but the masses use (and are happy) with 256 kbps just as they were with 128 kbps.
  • Orb Akustik Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I don't disagree, yet even if the vast majority of users are unconcerned with the difference between lossless and 256 kps, eventually there'll be less reason not to offer the higher quality variant if storage capacities and technology continues at the present rate of increase. It's an extension of the Long Tail principle, i.e. when storage costs are essentially free then there's nothing to be lost by making everything available, and now in better quality. itunes will then retain all its normal users and no longer stand to lose the 5%, 10%, or 15% who would opt for lossless. Even just 5% of several hundred million users worldwide is, obviously, quite significant. My 2 kilobytes....