12 Replies Latest reply: Nov 21, 2005 3:40 PM by Ralph Johns (UK)
Randy Countryman Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
After reading this forum and the iSight forum for for awhile now and having trouble connecting with various PC friends at times, it seems to me that the most reasonable solution to at least a large portion of the problems would be to develop and release a Windows version of iChat. Along with that they should drop the AIM protocol and use their own. (.mac messaging?)

As we all know, our many PC friends use MSN, Yahoo and AIM. To video chat with us we ask them to download and install AIM. Then they may or may not have to tune it, set the firewall, etc. Even when doing this success is erratic and the AIM program problematic. Success seems to be hit and miss, for example I can only connect when they initiate the video chat.

Of course a Windows version isn't going to fix all the problems, but it could ensure that the compatibility was there and the settings correct.

I know my friends would install it if we could get the quality of video that we should. The fact that iChat only uses the AIM protocol is a real hinderance in my opinion and I think if we are not going to get MSN and Yahoo compatibility, that producing a PC version would be a good, if not better alternative.

Just an idea.
  • James A. Weston Level 5 Level 5 (5,830 points)
    Until such time as a decent Mac/PC video conferencing solution becomes available, you're best bet may be to use a real PC to video conference with all of your PC-using friends.
  • Randy Countryman Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
    Until such time as a decent Mac/PC video conferencing
    solution becomes available, you're best bet may be to
    use a real PC to video conference with all of your
    PC-using friends.


    I've actually purchased Logitech cam for my PC, as a backup. Don't know that everyone would do that though. I prefer to use my Mac, which is in my den. And generally I can get something going. More often than not that is aMSN with my MSN friends. No audio, but video is very good.

    It was more of a general suggestion, and as Ralph pointed out there is a way to make suggestions to Apple. Kind of wondering what other people thought about the idea, and whether it was feasible.

    I'm with the group that feels this is one of the most troublesome hardware/software products Apple has ever produced. I got an original Mac in '84 and have been using them ever since. This is the only time I can remember that a PC user can say, "well it just works for me" and the Mac users says, "well if you would just configure this and download that, and..." No one is saying it doesn't have superior video, etc. But it is not very "Mac" like and I think it should be.

    And to those who say it works for 90% of the people. Show me some data to back that up. I challenge that. Yes these forums attract people with problems looking for answers. But there is likely just as many people experiencing problems that don't know where to go, or just give up. I have to believe that if experienced Mac users are having problems, then so are inexperienced.
  • James A. Weston Level 5 Level 5 (5,830 points)
    I think it's against the forum rules to speculate on some of the things you're talking about.

    I'm interested in a video conference with you if you would like to connect to my Mac at jawestonb@mac.com or to my PC at jawestond.
  • Randy Countryman Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
    http://www.apple.com/feedback/ichat.html

    Ralph


    Thanks Ralph, I copied my message and sent it. I'm sure Steve will be writing me back any time now
  • Ralph Johns (UK) Level 9 Level 9 (69,740 points)
    With an AIM name you can try http://beta.aol.com/projects.php?project=triton

    Ralph
  • James A. Weston Level 5 Level 5 (5,830 points)
    The AIM Triton Beta for PCs doesn't yet support video.

    Also (as of yesterday), Mac to PC one-way video and audio to audio connections were not possible for me when using AIM Triton Beta.
  • Ralph Johns (UK) Level 9 Level 9 (69,740 points)
    HI James,

    Thought you would be up together on that one

    Ralph
  • Randy Countryman Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    I'm interested in a video conference with you if you
    would like to connect to my Mac at jawestonb@mac.com
    or to my PC at jawestond.


    Thanks James. I would like to take you up on that. I'm on my laptop, away from home at the moment but I will try to catch up with you tonight or tomorrow. I'd be very interested in trying to connect to your PC. Thanks for the offer.
  • Wim Philips Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I've send this to the feedback site Ralph mentioned...

    If everybody does... perhaps they wake up and start working on it???
    Or aren't they prood enough to proof that they can make software that is the best for both PC and Mac?






    I suppose I'm not the first one to ask.
    I'm both videochatting with mac and PC users.

    When will apple make an iChat version that works for windows as well?

    There is a piece of software (freeware) that does the trick for both windows and mac, and it's called sightspeed. It has been nominated one of the best software by PC magazine.

    I my opinion iChat deserves that title for best videoconferencing software. But then it'll have to be perfectly cross-platform.
    It has to be possible, iTunes works on both...

    As long as it doesn't work good for my PC friends, I will be using sightspeed in stead of iChat... and that's a real pitty as iChat is better... Better for mac - mac anyway. But it's really stupid to have one program running for mac -mac calls and one for mac - pc calls, if only one can do both. And that one isn't iChat... not yet???
  • keyag Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I am a novice to this video conferencing. I am trying to help my brother who has an iMac G4 800 MHZ system running 256 mb ram. I asked him to get more ram as it will help speed up his computer.

    could you do a test video to my computer to see if I have iSight / iChat set up correctly?

    my .mac.com account name is: rjohnson16


    thank you.
  • Ralph Johns (UK) Level 9 Level 9 (69,740 points)
    HI keyag,

    Welcome to the Apple Discussion Pages

    Want to test with Another Person FAQ

    ThiS FAQ hold Autoresponding test accounts and real people to test with.

    Ralph