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Q: 24" iMac Screen Freezes since 10.6.3 update - pls help!

I don't know if this is just coincidence or not, but since updating my iMac to 10.6.3 it keeps on crashing. On 3 separate occasions today, whilst using my Mac the screen has gone completely black with thin white lines down it.....see pic below:

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/6SYzhCgVYEU5TBKqRfOQ1Q?feat=directlink

The fans and hard disk are still running but it will not respond to any keyboard or mouse presses - I simply have to turn it off by holding the power button in.
It will then restart as usual.

Anyone got any ideas? Do you think that if I was to re-install Mac OS X from my original install disk it could solve the issue?

Thanks

Darren

24" intel imac 2.8Ghz, Mac OS X (10.6.3)

Posted on Mar 31, 2010 2:43 PM

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Q: 24" iMac Screen Freezes since 10.6.3 update - pls help!

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  • by Beddo,

    Beddo Beddo Oct 21, 2010 8:22 AM in response to vexbit
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    Oct 21, 2010 8:22 AM in response to vexbit
    I have this issue on my iMac 8,1 (8800gs). It started with a lock up in Windows 7 playing Civ 5. After reboot, Windows would turn completely white. Booting in to OS X would result in the screen turning completely black, or purple in some cases, even booting from the Snow Leopard CD to run diags. I do not think these issues are at all related to software.

    I have to wait for an hour or so for the hardware to cool off. I've cleaned out the air intake and output areas to make sure air was flowing freely. smcFanControl is kicked up to 3000rpm and i reguolarly see 180 deg. on CPU/GPU after minor use.

    I'm fortunate enough that if the iMac survives the login process, it will perform fine unless I launch something graphic intensive, then it will freeze up. I am saving up for the 8800gs adapter to replace it myself since Apple wants to charge outrageous fees and the use of their special tools (ie. suction cup and T8 Torx driver).

    I would recommend you keep an eye on yoru temps constantly in Windows and OS X so permanent damage does not occur. HDDs will fail with excessive heat too so keep that in mind.

    Good luck.
  • by appleimac24,

    appleimac24 appleimac24 Oct 22, 2010 12:44 PM in response to DazzaG
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    Oct 22, 2010 12:44 PM in response to DazzaG
    Guys, I'm sick to this problems. Apple can't find a cure to this YET??? I bet it's an incompatibility issues with the videocard.

    I'm ready to install iLife11 but I can't because I'm still using 10.6... iLife11 requires 10.6.3 or later.

    10.6.3 killed my hard drive few months ago. and here i am again checking if 10.6.4 did some trick, STILL!!! Apple .... PLEASE address this issue. give this a priority... stop doing anything new until this issue's resolve. No one will buy iLife11 then.
  • by appleimac24,

    appleimac24 appleimac24 Oct 22, 2010 1:41 PM in response to DazzaG
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    Oct 22, 2010 1:41 PM in response to DazzaG
    in fairness, i know apple is sick to this too.
  • by Simon Baker,

    Simon Baker Simon Baker Oct 22, 2010 2:23 PM in response to DazzaG
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    Oct 22, 2010 2:23 PM in response to DazzaG
    Latest from me is that I still get the odd freeze/crash, with kernel at 64bit. It does look like the GPU is the problem and it may be heat related, but so very strange that this only occurs after 10.6.2 (which I back installed successfully for several weeks, only to try 10.6.4 and the graphics update)
    Have done the maintenance stuff with OnyX and cleared out any suspect fonts with Font Book. Now have smcFanControl winding up the fans for the CPU and Optical Drive (around 1300+ rpm) and monitoring GPU temperatures in the iStatPro widget. It now crashes about once every two to four days.
    What does annoy is that it is very difficult to report issues directly to Apple unless the OS "sees" the crash and kindly asks you to forward details on the next reboot - I think I managed it once or twice, but not sure if I managed it under 10.6.4. These crashes seem fundamental as the OS doesn't suspect a thing!
    However, I do have crash logs on the Console and it reports a GPU crash via the kernel - a small extract is:
    Fri 22 Oct 10 16:31:19 pm kernel 0xc0026900
    Fri 22 Oct 10 16:31:19 pm kernel 0x0000000c
    Fri 22 Oct 10 16:31:19 pm kernel 0x00000000
    Fri 22 Oct 10 16:31:19 pm kernel 0x20002000
    Fri 22 Oct 10 16:31:19 pm kernel 0xc0036900
    Fri 22 Oct 10 16:31:19 pm kernel 0x00000080
    Fri 22 Oct 10 16:31:19 pm kernel 0x00000000
    Fri 22 Oct 10 16:31:19 pm kernel ** GPU Debug Info End **
    Fri 22 Oct 10 16:31:30 pm kernel ** Device in slot: SLOT--1 **
    Fri 22 Oct 10 16:31:30 pm kernel ** GPU Debug Info Start **
    Fri 22 Oct 10 16:31:30 pm kernel 0x00009583
    Fri 22 Oct 10 16:31:30 pm kernel 0x000000d6
    Fri 22 Oct 10 16:31:30 pm kernel 0x00000001
    Fri 22 Oct 10 16:31:30 pm kernel 0x00000018
    Fri 22 Oct 10 16:31:30 pm kernel 0x00009052

    ...but the iMac never recovers or locks. I could send the whole lot if anyone really wants it. I did attach it to a report problems with Safari... Anyone know how to report properly to Apple for the OS and iMac???
  • by vexbit,

    vexbit vexbit Oct 24, 2010 5:03 PM in response to Simon Baker
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    Oct 24, 2010 5:03 PM in response to Simon Baker
    I can confirm that after running my iMac 7,1 on 10.6.4 with increased fans speeds for about 4 days that it's stable, even whilst running GPU heavy games.

    So as a general note: Try speeding up your fans using smcFanControl and see if that helps your stability issues.
  • by dneu,

    dneu dneu Oct 28, 2010 1:31 PM in response to vexbit
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    Oct 28, 2010 1:31 PM in response to vexbit
    I had the same experience as the last post - smc fan control saved the day for me too! This link may be helpful, despite the different problems listed:

    http://appletoolbox.com/2010/08/problems-after-snow-leopard-graphics-update-1-0/

    cheers!
  • by eeemin,

    eeemin eeemin Oct 29, 2010 8:21 PM in response to dneu
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    Oct 29, 2010 8:21 PM in response to dneu
    Already done all, but froze again.
  • by eeemin,

    eeemin eeemin Oct 29, 2010 8:49 PM in response to eeemin
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    Oct 29, 2010 8:49 PM in response to eeemin
    Just happened again. Here my picture.

    http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/803/img0050vu.jpg
  • by eeemin,

    eeemin eeemin Oct 30, 2010 1:06 AM in response to eeemin
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    Oct 30, 2010 1:06 AM in response to eeemin
    @ vexbit
    Can I get a screenshot of the smcFanControl preference window?
  • by dneu,

    dneu dneu Nov 1, 2010 4:34 PM in response to eeemin
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    Nov 1, 2010 4:34 PM in response to eeemin
    Sorry, I don't have access to the computer anymore. I was updating a friend's computer. He's been using it for several days with no issues. All I can say is that I moved the 3 sliders in the preferences about halfway. It should be noted that we are talking about OSX.6.4 in this case.
  • by eeemin,

    eeemin eeemin Nov 4, 2010 12:27 AM in response to vexbit
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    Nov 4, 2010 12:27 AM in response to vexbit
    Unbelievable.
    vexbit. I really appreciate you. You were right. freeze problems were due to thermal issues.
    Until now (about 4 days), I haven't seen a freezing screen.
    Thank you again.
  • by Matthew Yohe,

    Matthew Yohe Matthew Yohe Nov 7, 2010 10:45 PM in response to eeemin
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    Nov 7, 2010 10:45 PM in response to eeemin
    eeemin wrote:
    Just happened again. Here my picture.

    http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/803/img0050vu.jpg


    This is pretty much what I see on a regular basis. iMac 8,1 24" ATI HD 2600 Pro.

    Also only started after 10.6.3. What's weird is that it doesn't seem to be related to running heavy graphics stuff, but I know that certain "graphical" things have caused the freeze to appear to happen more often.

    I usually use Ctrl+Zoom and sometimes it seems that during use of that, the mac freezes. Or if I use the Dock's Stacks, that also I believe has happened a couple times right when opening a stack.

    Is there a way to test the video memory on these machines? Something that will touch every bit of memory to see if it locks up at some particular register? Any other ideas?
  • by jmanwee,

    jmanwee jmanwee Nov 10, 2010 4:28 PM in response to DazzaG
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    Nov 10, 2010 4:28 PM in response to DazzaG
    Guys, *MacOS X 10.6.5* came out today, can someone please report if it fixed the freezing problem after we updated to 10.6.3? i too reverted back to 10.6.2 because i couldnt stand the freezing, and i also purchased ilife 2011 and i cant install it as it requires 10.6.3 or above, i also cant use Facetime which i really want as it requires 10.6.3 too, i also wont be able to use itunes 10.1 i think.
  • by Eminemdrdre00,

    Eminemdrdre00 Eminemdrdre00 Nov 10, 2010 8:59 PM in response to jmanwee
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    Nov 10, 2010 8:59 PM in response to jmanwee
    I just updated to Mac OS X 10.6.5 hoping the issue would be fixed...and it's not. I just had my iMac lock up and my screen turn black. Looks like I'm going back down to 10.6.2 again...:(

    This is terrible! I can't use Facetime, I can't upgrade to iLife '11, I won't be able to use the Mac App Store. I'm stuck on 10.6.2 because if I go any higher my Mac will randomly freeze with a black screen, or a white screen, or a white screen with lines. It seems to happen when I use Expose or watch a video, so it must be graphics related right?

    There's still no fix for this? I've never had a problem with my Mac until 10.6.3. That's why I'm still on 10.6.2. Would calling Apple help?
  • by jmanwee,

    jmanwee jmanwee Nov 10, 2010 9:04 PM in response to DazzaG
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    Nov 10, 2010 9:04 PM in response to DazzaG
    no it wont help, they'll just give you some stupid excuse that you installed something lately and thats whats causing the problem , look how many of us have this exact same problem ,i am freakin stuck on 10.6.2 aswell, i cant use facetime or upgrade to ilife 11 WHICH I PURCHASED I didnt know it required 10.6.3 or above, thanks god reverting to 10.6.2 fixed the problem though cuz my imac is out of warrenty.

    Message was edited by: lamonsasa
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