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Q: Photoshop Presets for dvd sp

Hi,

Does anyone know what is the best preset for a photoshop document to use as a menu (16/9) in dvd sudio pro? Because you have so many choices. It's for Europe so it must be PAL.

iMac, Mac OS X (10.6.2)

Posted on Apr 2, 2010 12:28 AM

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  • by David Harbsmeier,

    David Harbsmeier David Harbsmeier Apr 2, 2010 3:11 AM in response to diewer
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    Apr 2, 2010 3:11 AM in response to diewer
    It's for Europe so it must be PAL


    PAL/NTSC/ATSC/SECAM have no meaning in Photoshop image files - they are simply still images.

    -DH
  • by e45blue,

    e45blue e45blue Apr 2, 2010 4:45 AM in response to David Harbsmeier
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    Apr 2, 2010 4:45 AM in response to David Harbsmeier
    you need to build the graphics in photoshop at one size, and then rescale them to the video dimensions below.

    The dimensions for PAL and NTSC are diffrerent, for PAL 16x9 graphics:

    create in photosop at 1024 x 576 pixels

    when finished, rescale to 720 x 576 pixels and import into DVDSP


    for more info, look in the DVDSP manuak from page 50 onwards
  • by Drew13,

    Drew13 Drew13 Apr 2, 2010 4:49 AM in response to diewer
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    Apr 2, 2010 4:49 AM in response to diewer
    If you are using a recent version of Photoshop, CS2, CS3 and CS4 (maybe CS1, don't have that one) use the preset for PAL Widescreen. It has guides and turn Pixel Aspect Ratio on.
  • by diewer,

    diewer diewer Apr 2, 2010 5:35 AM in response to diewer
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    Apr 2, 2010 5:35 AM in response to diewer
    first of all thanks for al the support!

    When i create a file with preset for PAL Widescreen everything looks great in DVD SP but when a burn it to a dvd and play it on TV or the computer it doesn't look good. It's very unsharp and unclear. Is this normal or am i doing something wrong?
  • by Drew13,

    Drew13 Drew13 Apr 2, 2010 6:56 AM in response to diewer
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    Apr 2, 2010 6:56 AM in response to diewer
    Could be a few things. Larger fonts (20pt plus, sans-serif) are a better bet. Use tifs instead of jpeg. try to avoid using items where DVD SP will add compression to the menus (not sure how you are making the menus overall.)

    Another good trick is to use Motion. You can get some real clean menus and making the background a "video" even if it is effectively just a still that runs for x seconds, can help with quality.

    Are you looking at a viewing distance and does it look good there? Also, what steps are you doing to create the menu?
  • by diewer,

    diewer diewer Apr 2, 2010 11:53 AM in response to diewer
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    Apr 2, 2010 11:53 AM in response to diewer
    All the fonds used in the menu are over 20pt, but the problem isn't really the font. The fonts are relatively good.

    First of all i make a new file in photoshop with the presets : PAL Widescreen Square pixels. Then i open the photo that i want to use as u menu background and drag it into the new file, so that it has the right resolution and size. Than i create some text (larger dan 20pt) and add some graphics to the file. After that i save it as a psd, import it to dvd SP, create a new menu and drag the file in the new menu. And add buttons in it.

    When i watch it with the simulator everything looks great, but when i burn it (or build it), it doens't. Is there something that i'm doing wrong?
  • by diewer,

    diewer diewer Apr 2, 2010 11:59 AM in response to diewer
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    Apr 2, 2010 11:59 AM in response to diewer
    ok, i re-checked it and it looks great on the computer aswell, but not on tv.
  • by Drew13,

    Drew13 Drew13 Apr 2, 2010 2:01 PM in response to diewer
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    Apr 2, 2010 2:01 PM in response to diewer
    You may want to try flattening the image and save a copy into a Tiff and bring it in to DVD SP that way.

    When you add buttons, are you just using the rectangle tool then using a layer as an overlay or doing something else? Which part is causing issues? Often fonts can be a bear, but it sounds like you are not running into that problem....


    As an aside, some of the information about menus

    About Menu Rendering

    Depending on how you create your standard menus, they may have to be rendered
    into an MPEG-2 video asset when you build your project. The menu must be
    rendered if it uses any of the following:
    • Assets assigned to a button
    • Shapes
    • Drop zones
    • Text objects
    • SIF (MPEG-1 or MPEG-2), 1/2 D1, or cropped D1 video
    Standard menus that only use a background (whether still or video), an overlay, and
    one or more audio files do not get rendered.
    Whether the menu gets rendered or not can be important for a couple of reasons:
    • The time it takes. Rendering menus is a process that composites all of the menu
    elements, one frame at a time, and creates an MPEG-2 file out of these composited
    frames. Depending on your system and the length of your menus, this can take a
    significant amount of time to process. See “Menu Preferences” on page 115 for more
    information.
    • Extra processing can affect video. If your menu background video must be rendered,
    the extra processing has the potential to change the video a small amount.
    Anytime you decode compressed video, process it (such as by compositing shapes
    or text over it), then recompress it, you can expect some subtle changes to the
    background video. In those cases where you have meticulously encoded your
    background video before assigning it to a menu, this extra processing could
    noticeably change the video.
    When SD menus are rendered, they are encoded at 7 Mbps using the one-pass VBR
    method. HD menus are rendered at 21 Mbps using the one-pass VBR method.