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  • slpslee Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)
    {quote:title=Floyd Bloom wrote:} it will take trial and error timing estimations to end up with a manageable presentation {quote}


    I can second that enthusiastically. I'm a Mac user in a sea of PCs here at school, so I regularly export Keynote to QuickTime. I've found that anywhere from 5 seconds to 10 seconds works pretty well for display purposes. Fortunately I don't actually GIVE the presentations to anybody. They're just projected on a fixed LCD screen in the entrance to the school as an overview via a wheezing Windows laptop whose best days are several years removed.
  • kreme Level 1 Level 1 (35 points)
    I haven't used QuickTime since the 90's, and I'm not sure if I'm understanding the entire issue of the proper timing for importing/exporting Keynote to Quicktime. But couldn't you just use the pause for QuickTime to freeze a frame while you discuss it during your lectures and then resume to the next shot afterwards? Surely there is some way to maintain any transitional aesthetics for a Quicktime movie either through Keynote, QuickTime, or some other software out there so that when you resume, that transition (if any) takes effect, plays out, and then you can pause it again?

    Or does Quicktime black out the screen while it's paused? In which case, maybe iTunes could be used?

    It may seem cumbersome, but isn't the pause feature part of Keynote as well? I'm not entirely sure on this since I don't particularly use iWork, but there must be some type of workaround for those that need to remain on a single frame for an unknown duration.

    I don't use any of those programs. So, I don't fully know of the potential or limitations involved in them. But there's obviously many ways to work around the issue with other programs if one must use them.
  • Floyd Bloom Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)
    To pause Quicktime on a regular MacBook/Desktop, you only need to touch the space bar but I don't know of anyway with current versions to pause the Quicktime as quickly as that. If you click on the QuickTime movie, the control panel bar will appear and you can then use that to pause, but since the output of the iPad screen will be mirrored on whatever screen the audience sees, they will see that manipulation as well, so that's not an acceptable way to pause a presentation. If you set the timing when you export the KeyNote to QT then you don't need to stop the movie, but you do need enough time on each build on each slide to make your points during the talk. Since they are all the same duration then slides that need only brief descriptions will be on too long, and slides that may need a lot of words may be on too briefly.
  • kreme Level 1 Level 1 (35 points)
    What about a remote? It may be worth looking into seeing if they work with QuickTime on the iPad, maybe. I'm assuming they work with iTunes due to the heavy advertisement on the media for the iPad. But I wouldn't be able to say for sure. I use one that's part of a dock for my iPod for movies. But I've never tried it on my iTouch since I don't use it for movies. Though, I assume I could if I wanted to.
  • Bruce Robbie Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    It's true there are almost always work arounds to these issues, but the question here is, why should there be a work around. This is Apple Software on Apple hardware, advertised as iWorks for iPad. It should work seamlessly. Instead it doesn't import embedded movies, alters imported presentations and documents and then exports the crippled product, overwriting the original. This is just bad, plain and simple...bad.

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  • Mitch Stone Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
    You cannot reasonably expect that fonts would be automatically transferred via your documents from the Mac or PC to the iPad. This does not happen under any other circumstances, so why would it happen on the iPad? I would not mention this evident fact, had several posters not complained about the loss of fonts in transferred documents making a mess of things. Maybe Apple will enable the installation on fonts on the iPad at some point. This would be great -- but for now, this is a limitation. Planning your document creation accordingly seems to be the solution.

    I hear lots of complaints about some of the things that were left out. Fine. But after spending some time with iPad Pages, I was surprised by how much was left in. For one, I found that paragraph styles were imported accurately -- which means that a document created on the Mac, edited on the iPad, then returned to the Mac, reinherits the original fonts.

    Further, nothing is "overwritten." When the iPad file appears in the iTunes document browser, it can be dragged out and copied anywhere on your Mac without replacing anything. You have to explicitly choose to replace the original.
  • kreme Level 1 Level 1 (35 points)
    The irony there is just about the same as expecting all Microsoft products to run well on a Windows-based machine. Or expecting all Console games to run great because they were designed for a particular console.

    I believe I've already mentioned that Apple makes great machines, but their software, most of it, quite literally falls short IMO, regardless of what platform it's running on. I guess that's why I don't sympathize much in this case and would be more inclined to go with the workarounds instead. I just wouldn't expect much to begin with.
  • kennmsr Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
    As stated earlier in this thread, if you export the Keynote as a Quicktime Movie with Manual Timing you can navigate the slides and builds with each click of the mouse on a Desktop/Laptop. Unfortunately when imported as a Movie to the iPad it runs independently without the pauses. Oh Rats.
  • Sherman Wilcox Level 1 Level 1 (100 points)
    I'm in serious disappointment mode here too. I'm a professor (and LONG-time Apple user) who teaches sign language and sign language linguistics. I do many conference presentations all over the world, and hoped to use an iPad for my conference/travel computer. But all of my presentations have embedded video -- this is a deal-breaker for me, if I can't include and control QuickTime videos in my Keynote slides.

    I've done a little bit of research on this matter. I don't yet own an iPad, but I've played with one at my university bookstore. I see that the Apple-supplied Keynote demos do have embedded video. I don't know what format that video is on, but it plays in the Keynote slides. I haven't been able to test whether video included in iPhoto can be placed into a slide in Keynote/iPad. [There is another thread here that suggests there may be problems doing this.]

    So the jury is out for me. Keynote isn't my only usage scenario for the iPad, but it would be a major one. If I cannot use it for giving high-quality (i.e., Keynote!) presentations, then I still have to carry my MacBook Pro. And in that case I have little need to buy an iPad.

    I strongly disagree with those posting here who say we shouldn't expect Keynote to be able to do this. I don't expect Keynote on iPad to be able to build high-quality presentations, that's fine with me. But I do expect to be able to show a professional presentation built in Keynote on my Mac using the iPad.

    I fully understand Keynote and the other iWork apps are version 1 products. But software drives the iPad. And, unfortunately for this cash-strapped academic, that drives iPad purchase.
  • ebraz Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I too went out and purchase the iPad to be able to do presentation and found out the my presentations would not seamlessly import from my iMac. I feel Apple mislead us on this and either fix it ASAP or allow us to return our iPads. NOT AT ALL HAPPY ABOUT THIS!!!!!!!!
  • kreme Level 1 Level 1 (35 points)
    You are allowed to return your iPad. You have 14 days to do it.

    I believe there may be a 10% restocking fee though. I would check with Apple if I were you to verify this.
  • Hugoniot Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
    I used the iPad to give a presentation to a venture capitalist last week. Worked great!

    But I am having some difficulties moving presentations between the iPad and my desktop in which the fonts get messed up. The iPad is using Helvetica, but on the desktop, it always says that I don't have Helvetica Light. It surprises me that I would have difficulty with such a common font. Any ideas for what could be going on?
  • popster Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)
    Like Bill Clinton, I feel your pain. My desire is to see how to make it work anyway I can. I had a collection of Keynote presentations that I use whenever I am asked. They all transferred over well - except one where all the images cam over as placeholders. I spent a lot of time finding new images to add to the Photo library and pasting some into Pages documents that I brought over via FileSharing.

    There are a number of reports and hard to duplicate files that I want to project - I use Grab to copy them into a Keynote presentation on my MacBook and FileShare them over.

    I don't use a lot of transitions, special fonts or builds, so things are pretty straightforward. So, far, I haven't lost anything but a bit of sleep figuring how to get-around.

    I like GoodReader as a hierarchical storage medium and can mail docs to the iWork world.

    I am counting on this style of computing only to evolve.
  • Jon Davis1 Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
    Really just piling on to the discussion here. I tried my first iPad keynote presentation today for a grad class that I am teaching. I sadly was unaware of the compatibility issues. The presentation deck was a complete fail. (1) the forward slide button worked only occasionally, (2) the display randomly switched from regular to widescreen mode (and in widescreen about 1/3 of the slides were cut off, and (3) as you might expect, there were lots of problems with the slides because of the lack of compatibility with Keynote for OS X. I now feel that the marketing for the iWorks suite was highly misleading and that Keynote for iPad is basically a waste of money. The utility of the iPad is much less than I had hoped. I'm glad I didn't use personal funds to acquire it.
  • Nirvana98109 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Count me as another one disappointed by the iPad Pages and Numbers apps. Between the wi-fi problem, battery life not as long as expected, and now not being able to use the iPad to edit my desktop iWork files, I'll be returning mine, out $70 after the restocking fee and app purchases