I would guess that the Apple presenters in your link are using a Mac, not an iPad. I'm not a Mac person, but I believe that there are all kinds of remote control devices for a MAC just as there are for a PC.
As for the iPad, I can't find anything available that can remotely control Keynote other than the Apps discussed above.
It sure would be nice to just plug a receiver into the Apple connector port on the iPad and have some small wireless remote that could hide in your hand. I'm really surprised that with the popularity of the iPad that something doesn't exist yet.
We just recently discovered Keynote for the iPad and how well it's presentation mode is laid out. Maybe as more of the corporate presenters start using iPads for Powerpoint presentations, the need for a remote will get someone to build the device. On the other hand, if you're not going to hold the iPad and make use of it's presentation mode, maybe you would just run powerpoint from a pc and use a wireless remote.
You posted at the same time I was writing my reply to your Apple Presenters link a few posts above this.
In your response to the "Simple Cue" and the "Blue clicker" links, I don't see where the Simple Cue can connect to an iPad and the Blue Clicker is only referring to what Steve Jobs has been seen holding at his presentations, which are controlling Macs as the story shows.
I know that this clicker is with USB. But I found ideal presentation combination. Not cheap, but ideal.
It is the solution of ArriTyson (http://bit.ly/zfceMN) with this SimpleCue clicker (http://bit.ly/iYjRww) or for smaller distances with this remote (http://bit.ly/zwZ2d1). Your presentation is running on the Mac, controller is in your hand and slides, time and presenter notes you see on your iPad.
Configuration: Mac, Clicker, iPad
I guess I'm not following why you would want an iPad if you have a Mac and a remote in the setup. If you're close enough to the iPad to see the presenter notes, then why not touch the screen on the iPad to advance the slide rather than hold the remote? If you're only using the iPad to see the presenter notes and not controll the presentation, then why not just look at the screen on the Mac and skip the iPad altogether?
The same goes for using an iPhone to control the iPad and Keynote - I believe Keynote works on an iPhone, so why not just run Keynote from the iPhone rather than remotely control the iPad. I think the iPhone can connect to the Apple TV the same as an iPad.
In my opinion, the more complex we make the setup, the more chance there is of some component not working and we end up standing in front of an audience with a blank screen. Wow them with the contect, not the setup.
I'll explain to you my look. You are on the stage. Your Mac is by the projector somewhere far from you. Your iPad is in front of you. If you want to, you can stay on one place and control the presentation. If you want to walk on the stage, like Steve did, you can walk and speak and control the presentation elsewhere and you don't need to touch your iPad. If you have your notes in head or on the paper, you don't need iPad. If the projector is projecting behind of you, you don't need to turn back, what is on the projector and you will see it in front of you. You can use of course iPhone to control the presentation, but more useful is remote with hardware buttons. Steve didn't use iPhone to control his presentations too.
That makes sense that you are using the iPad as a remote screen of the Mac and one of the only ways to use a hardware remote. I also agree that I would want hardware buttons rather than a touch screen in my hand for a remote. We can only hope that someone will come up with a hardware iPad remote.
Let me give you my context. This is VERY common for corporate trainers and classroom teachers pre-K to higher eeducation...
I am in a room (classroom/training room) that is not "my home," so I have very limited control of the network. My iPad is connected to the data projector with the VGA dongle. No MAC in sight. Corporate/campus/commercial wifi is not setup to allow wifi connection through the network (true of security setting on most wifi networks) unless you can identify a specific IP address of the device (as with the spalshtop app).
I want to use my iPhone to uncouple me from the podium during my Keynote presentation.
I will also need access to the web, as I also need to access other apps and websites from the iPad that will be mirrored to the data projector. These I can do from the podium.
Is there a solution?
You could use the belkin router that I referenced in an earlier post and that will get you a small private wifi/network connection between your iPad and iPhone regardless of what security the school has in place. If you get an Apple TV device for $100, you can lose the VGA dongle as this will also connect to the iPad via wifi. You definately will want to password protect both access to the router setup and to its wifi connection (use WPA).
To get internet, you will need the cooperation of the school so that you can connect the internet port on the router to the schools network. I would first try connecting the router to the data jack in the classroom. Most networks are secure for wifi, but not always for hardwire connections - at least not to access the internet. If you do this, make sure that you use the "internet" jack (sometimes called "WAN") on the router so that your little private network is isolated from the school's network.
The above setup won't allow you to access the school's network resources like shared drives, but should allow you to use an iPad and iPhone for your presentations, along with access to the internet.
Note: School or corporate policy might prohibit you from connecting any kind of wireless or network device on their premises. Don't get yourself in trouble, check with the IT deaprtment and nicely explain to them what you'd like to do. I know some IT departments like to keep ultimate control. I'm an IT tech in a small company and I see technology as a tool to enhance employee and company performance/service. My role is to make that happen not hinder it. Of course network security is important, but what you are asking to have done is easy to accomplish without any security issues.
Let me know if you need more info,
Thanks Dave. You have outlined a great solution, as well as the limitations. The data projectors that are available almost always lack HDMI connections (VGA only), so Apple TV (which I do own) isn't an option. Also, not every IT manager is as open as you are to "creative connections," especially when presneting to a group in a hotel conference room where there is usually not a network person onsite. I'll try the small private wifi/network connection you described.
You can always get a cellular hotspot device which would give you the wifi connection and internet, but then of course you would have a monthly charge.
I have a 3G device from Verizon that allows 5 network connections and has 3G internet, but it's $50/month which might not be justifiable depending on your business environment. This setup does have some limitations because of the 5 connections. When we do trade shows, our employees like to connect their phones and iPads to the hotspot unit, so I have to periodically change the wifi password to keep their phones from automatically connecting when they come onto the premises or turn on their iPads. If more than 5 devices connect, it will sometimes kick a device off instead of denying a connection. You can imagine what would happen if in the middle of a presentation your iPad was kicked off of the network.
Let me know if you need any help with your setup when you try it and I'd be glad to help.
I'm not on this forum much, so post back to this thread or send me a private message (does this forum have private messaging?).
This discussion about pairing iPhone and iPad might help explain things:
"The iPad can only pair with the iPhone over Bluetooth when you have created a Cellular Hotspot with the iPhone to share a data connection with the iPad. You can only create a Cellular Hotspot with the iPhone if your cellular service provider allows you to with your particular account."
I can only get Keynote Remote to work when I enable Personal Hotspot on my iPhone. If your carrier does not allow Personal Hotspots then you are [out of luck].
I haven't picked my way through all eleven pages of this thread so apologies if this has already been mentioned.
I am a professional management trainer/consultant working in the UK and am investigating using an iPad for my work.
My research has led me to an app called 2screens which seems to do everything that I (and others) wish to do. Has anyone used it?
There's a demo on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YER9EvFG2Uw
There's also a review of it here: http://www.touchmyapps.com/2011/02/28/2screens-presentation/
Would be interested on anyone's thoughts on this.
I don't know about anyone else, but it doesn't work for me. The app site says... "The Animation and transition effects in Keynote/PowerPoint are NOT supported." From what I see, this app makes static PDFs from presnetations and allows you to scroll through and annotate those PDFs. There are a number of other apps that do this as well. I am looking for a bluetooth remote that will control keynote presentations without having to activate the added-cost hotspot feature on the phone.
I did get the small private wifi/network described by Daver12 to work. Now I need to see if I can also integrate internet connectivity on a corporate network through the small private wifi network.