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bootcamp windows 7 Firewire external drive NTFS?

9414 Views 8 Replies Latest reply: May 18, 2010 12:38 PM by The hatter RSS
Michael Northcutt Calculating status...
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Apr 10, 2010 11:10 PM
Hi,
Anyone had any success creating an external firewire drive with bootcamp windows 7, ntfs format? If so, how did you do it?

I tried this but have failed. The end result is that windows sees the drive but fails to write at firewire speeds on to the the drive. What I did:
bought paragon ntfs
formatted my external FW drive as NTFS (from Mac).
restart in windows
windows "sees" drive
test copies to new drive failed... super slow (48 hrs to copy 100GB).
updated boot camp to 3.1
now when I copy to FW, speeds are normal but process freezes at about 95% compete on ALL file transfers to FW.

What should I do? I desperately need to have a FW backup option for my windows 7.

Thanks,
Mike
Mac pro (early 2008 desktop), 8 x 2.8, 12GB Ram, 4TB, Mac OS X (10.6.2), Boot camp 3.1, win 7 pro 64bit, 8800 gt
  • Zico Bronzi Calculating status...
    I am Having the same problem and did not find any solution did you find one ?
    MacBook Pro, IPhone / IPad
  • Fortuny Level 7 Level 7 (21,415 points)
    Hi Michael,

    I still use Windows XP with my Mac but still never had such a problem with my two Firewire external HDs (one FW400 and one FW800).
    And I did a lot of things with these

    Partioned one for use with OSX and Windows (one HFS+ partition; one NTFS partition); copied my complete MP3-collection (180GB) from one external HD to the other; etc.

    All without any kind of glitch or slowdown.

    To my knowledge Microsoft has completely rewritten the Firewire driver for Windows 7, so that could be one explanation, which might get better with the first Service Pack for Windows 7.

    Also the Firewire support in Vista was 'flaky' to say the least.

    But sorry no idea of a solution from my part.

    Stefan
    MacPro 2.66 (Late 2006) 8GB X1900XT, Mac OS X (10.6.2), (2006 20" iMac gone for good/bad, sniff...)
  • Fortuny Level 7 Level 7 (21,415 points)
    Hi again Michael,

    just found this Microsoft article about Firewire and Windows 7 http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;975500

    Might be worth trying that "Hot-Fix".

    Hope it helps

    Stefan
    MacPro 2.66 (Late 2006) 8GB X1900XT, Mac OS X (10.6.3), (2006 20" iMac gone for good/bad, sniff...)
  • mrymill Calculating status...
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    May 4, 2010 3:25 PM (in response to Fortuny)
    I'm having similar issues to the original post - SUPER slow write speeds on an external NTFS firewire 800 hard drive. (Windows 7, iMac 27" i5) Just posted more info on my situation here:

    http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=11479129#11479129

    Thanks for the Hot Fix link! I'll call MS support tonight and give that a go - will update if I have any news.
    iMac 27", Mac OS X (10.6.3)
  • Jeff Sansoterra Calculating status...
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    May 18, 2010 11:36 AM (in response to mrymill)
    Same problem here. The drive basically 'drops out'. I have tried two different firewire drives.

    Interestingly, the drives work fine under OSX.

    Windows error log reports a 'driver problem' with the device after it drops.
  • The hatter Level 9 Level 9 (58,535 points)
    Apple admits in one tech note to poor FW800 speeds on Mac Pro.

    Hard to get rid of GPT but if you format the drive to MBR in Disk Utility and FAT you can then convert or reformat to NTFS.

    No mention of the make of the case.

    FW400 is pretty good. But why not use eSATA PCIe and SATA. Native if possible (no FW/USB type cases, or Oxford with multi interfaces). Works for me, using FW400 or Sonnet Tempo E2P or E4P (but not both together in Windows).

    The hot fix wasn't that for XP or something?

    Motherboards like Gigabyte are coming out with a dual-use port for SATA and USB3. FW seems like proprietary, not really adopted or supported outside Apple.

    And I'd say there are problems with NTFS drivers for OS X so that is an issue.

    Also, as nice as it may seem, Boot Camp's AppleHFS.sys and HFS+ support for read-only in Windows causes other problems and side effects, like Windows 7's Backup facility to not work.

    When I get a drive, I use Windows and the vendor's (WD etc) hard drive diagnostic to do a full test, zero, etc and almost invariably drives formatted in Mac OS had trouble and worked better after such tests and formatting.
    Mac Pro 8800GT 10K VelociRaptor, Mac OS X (10.6.2), Windows 7 i7 3.2GHz GTX 260-216

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