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Getting a SINGLE-line paragraph to justify (on both left and right)

OK, back in the Olden Days I tried to get Microsoft Word, AppleWorks, and/or MacWrite to do this and I failed. Will Pages be any better?

When a paragraph using the Justify option is being typed, its text starts out being left aligned. As soon as there's enough text to wrap to a second line, the first line is justified on left and right. This is, of course, exactly what Justify is supposed to do. The incomplete last line of the text is left aligned until it, too, becomes not the last line of the paragraph any more.

Here's my question: If I have a paragraph with not enough text to wrap to the second line, can I force Pages to justify the line anyway? Of course, if there are few words in the line, justification might look stupid, but if there's not too much space, it'll look fine.

PLEASE DO NOT ASK ME TO JUSTIFY (in the judicial sense!) WHY I WANT TO DO THIS. I know most (all?) word processors don't do this; I know that one or two of them do (possibly only ultra-expensive programs used by publishers to actually format real books). I know I'm not "supposed" to want this. BUT I DO.

Sigh; OK, I'll explain why. Maybe I'm a poet and I like the way it looks. Maybe I'm trying to create the look of a particular book's page that, in the original, continues on the next page and thus has its first line (the last line of the previous page) justified both left and right. Maybe I'm just weird.

I know I'm not the only person who wants this; the only other Discussion I can find on this topic has a sentence that reads:

"It is only text flowing past the column width that causes the previous line's text to be justified (if indeed that formatting is selected). Therefore, as I understand it, there will always be un-justified text at the end of a paragraph and/or last column."

Attempts to work around the problem:

(1) If I try typing shift-return at the end of a line, I start a new line with a Line Break, but the previous line pops back to being left aligned.

(2) Various other modifier-key combinations insert new paragraphs.

(3) If I type an option-space as the last word, it behaves disconcertingly like an ordinary space. (Not quite, but I thought option-spaces were supposed to act like normal, non-space characters, as they do in the ol' standby AppleWorks.) But in particular, the fake, invisible "word" does not wrap to the next line and does not trigger justification of the line I'm trying to justify.

The only workaround that kinda sorta works is this:

(4) Type a word at the end of the last line that is long enough to wrap to the next line and thus to cause the previous line to justify. Select that extra word and change its color to white.

Ugh. And there are situations in which this workaround can't be used, and then?

Is there any way to do what I want in Pages? How about any other Mac word processor? (I've tried Word and AppleWorks, obviously.) With Apple's recent attention to typographic detail (such as the floating Font window's Typography options), wouldn't it be trivial to add this justify-one-line-on-both-ends option in some Inspector panel or other?

Mac OS X (10.5.8)

Posted on Apr 12, 2010 3:10 AM

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Posted on Apr 12, 2010 3:19 AM

You may do that:
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Yvan KOENIG (VALLAURIS, France) lundi 12 avril 2010 12:18:58
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Apr 12, 2010 7:47 AM in response to fruhulda

fruhulda wrote:
You could also make the writing area smaller, that is

1) larger margins or
2) change the layout margin. The first one you adjust in the Document Inspector palette (first tab) and the second one in the Layout tab (second tab). There are many options and they work together.
3) larger font is another option or 4) use another font.


I assume that the user made a choice of margins for some valid reasons and that given that, changing them is not an option.

Use a larger font or an other one is really awful when a document is carefully designed.
It's like a furuncle on the nose.

Yvan KOENIG (VALLAURIS, France) lundi 12 avril 2010 16:47:39

Apr 12, 2010 7:59 AM in response to James Weinrich1

(1) playing with the character spacing is a basic feature in typography. I just think that the ability to use a decimal value for the percentage would be useful.

(2) I'm not sure of what you mean with 'underlying'.
If you ask about the very end of a paragraph which is not fully justified, as far as I know, it's the normal typography requirement.
If you want that the very last part of the paragraph 'fill' a line, you must play with hyphenation an character spacing but it may applied only upon long paragraphs. For those with one or two lines, as far as I know, there is no clean soluce.

Yvan KOENIG (VALLAURIS, France) lundi 12 avril 2010 16:59:54

Apr 12, 2010 1:06 PM in response to KOENIG Yvan

(1) I did experiment with line spacing, and it kinda-sorta works. And I did try using a decimal value for the percentage, and it works. You have to type it in manually; clicking the up and down arrows only goes up or down by one percentage point at a time.

(2) Yes, it is normal typography to NOT fully justify the last line of a paragraph. I want abnormal typography every now and then; I have repeatedly run into two situations where I want it. Again, my point is not to explain why and then have someone tell me why I shouldn't want this; I just want to figure out how to do it, since my reasons are not immoral, illegal, or fattening (grin).

Maybe my use of "underlying" could have been better chosen. What is mean is that using the manual-adjustment method, it is not possible to be EXACTLY correct. With fractions of percentage points you can be very, very close and probably no one would notice, so that is the solution I will use if I cannot find the perfect answer. A perfect answer would be one which does the right thing without my having to use trial and error to estimate it, and which thus calculates the correct inter-word spacing as exactly as it does for any other justified line of text. And a COMPLETELY perfect answer (grin) would be to show me how to do this with a single keystroke or two, rather than having to use the very, very close solution.

I DO want to thank you BEAUCOUP pour votre réponse; c'était très ingénieux.

Reçois, monsieur, mes salutations distinguées!

PS: Google Translate is getting pretty darned good. I used it to check my spelling and it correctly translated the last three words, from French to English, completely, as "Sincerely" (as in "Sincerely yours"), and not word for word. Wow!

Apr 21, 2010 9:50 AM in response to KOENIG Yvan

Hey, everybody... I found the almost PERFECT solution!

It's hidden away in a very, very obscure Preference setting in Word Mac 2004, version 11.5.6. It's a global setting for the program as a whole; it doesn't "live inside" the document (as far as I can tell). So if I do things with that setting, then change the setting, then go back to my original document, the problem returns. It goes away again when I re-set the setting.

Go to Edit > Preferences, then click on Compatibility from the scrolling list on the left. In the big scrolling list that appears, scroll down to the following line and UNcheck its box:

[ ] Don't expand character spaces on the line ending Shift-Return

Then click OK. Then go to all the paragraphs with the unjustified last line and type a Shift-Return at the end of them. Voilà! They justify!

I'm not sure if the following explanation is correct, but I think so. The "character spaces" are the spaces expanded when using full justification (right and left). Normally the last line of a paragraph is justified flush left if it doesn't fill the line. One of the tricks I had already tried was to do a Shift-Return (new line, but NOT a new paragraph) at the end of that last line, in order to trick Word into thinking that it needed to fully justify it. That didn't work.

Well, when you UNcheck that box, then that trick DOES work!

Now there might be times when this solution would not be satisfactory; the Shift-Return might cause too much space after the paragraph, I might not want a global setting to control this, etc., etc. But for me, and my particular problem, this Preference, combined with the Shift-Return trick, is exactly what I needed.

May it be of use to someone else, too!

And thanks, everybody, for your help.

Getting a SINGLE-line paragraph to justify (on both left and right)

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