How to recover IN & OUT after exporting XML file from iMovie9 to FinalCut ?

Question

Level 1

5 points

How to recover IN & OUT after exporting XML file from iMovie9 to FinalCut ?

Here is my WorkFlow :
- Log & Capture my HDV footage in FCP - ProRes422.
- Move the captured ProRes 422 clips to a new EVENT in iMovie.
- Roughcut my edits in iMovie with no effects, no audio goof offs, ... just straight cuts.
- Share ( export ) XML FCP file >> import XML file to FCP >> create Archive of FCP project with MediaManager to gather used clips in a new project.

Everything is great, BUT :
clips that MediaManager gathers in the browser window do not have the In & Out points, although clips on the timeline representing frame accurate cuts from iMovie.

Is there any way to do this and have the in & out points in browser clips matching to the cuts on the timeline ?

MacPro Q2.6 -6 GiG RAM - 300GiG Boot + 3TB Raided, Mac OS X (10.4.7), Mac Classic II , PB 180C , ..., iMac G5, MacPro 2.6

Posted on Apr 14, 2010 8:54 AM

Reply

Answer 1

David S.

Level 7

20,630 points

Apr 14, 2010 8:56 AM in response to Ai-Max

any reason why the editing occurs in iMovie?

Reply

Answer 2

Ai-Max Author

Level 1

5 points

Apr 14, 2010 9:15 AM in response to David S.

i find the huge clips viewer of iMovie a great help for speeding up the roughcut stage. Especially if other people are involved in that stage.

Reply

Answer 3

RedTruck

Level 4

2,145 points

Apr 14, 2010 11:59 AM in response to Ai-Max

Are you aware that you can re-size the windows in FCP to be as big or as small as you want them to be?

Reply

Answer 4

Rienk

Level 4

3,155 points

Apr 14, 2010 12:21 PM in response to Ai-Max

Is there any reason why you would want to have in and out matching your timeline?
Or do you mean Media Start and Media End?
In that case you need to make sure the Clips in the browser have a REEL number (column Reel in the Browser) BEFORE you Media Manage them.
Select the Sequence only. Then File > Media Manager... use the settings: Copy, Delete Unused Media. Don Not Include Masterclips outside selection. No Handles.

If I understand you correctly this is what you want. And if I were you I'd only use it on this project. In the future just use FCP and rescale your windows to the size you like...

Rienk

Reply

Answer 5

Ai-Max Author

Level 1

5 points

Apr 14, 2010 7:33 PM in response to RedTruck

Yes i do, in fact that's how i worked before i discovered the iMovie9 trick for the rough cutting stage. You see- the window sizes in FCP are only part of the issue. i prefer the iMovie interface because the Event Library works like a StoryBoard of some sort. It's continuos . Not only i can scrub the whole footage and examine the audio, i can also get a better visual reference of the footage by looking at " bands" of icones. Yet again that's my preference.
And off course there is only one application for fine tuning video to the perfection and that is the FinalCut Pro Suit of applications.

Reply

Answer 6

Ai-Max Author

Level 1

5 points

Apr 14, 2010 7:58 PM in response to Rienk

Thank you very much for correcting my terminology. Yes, in fact i meant matching the clips on the time line to the Media Start and Media End in the browser. i am going to follow your instructions tomorrow in a test project. i will report back.
" red Truck " is suggesting for the FCP screen sizes and arrangement as you did and i replied to his post in detail. Basically i prefer the continues bands of icones that iMovie's Event Library offers. They are scrub-able and the window gives kinda story board for quick rough cutting.

Thanks again

Reply

Answer 7

RedTruck

Level 4

2,145 points

Apr 15, 2010 5:54 AM in response to Ai-Max

Do what you want, I'm not trying to change your workflow, but you can do all you say you do in FCP. If you change the browser to icon view, you can place the icons in a storyboard sequence right in the browser, and the icons are scrubable as well. In FCP, you can export EDLs, which you can't do in iMovie. You can also set the timeline window to dislplay the clips in Filmstrip view, which gives you the same visual representation that you have in iMovie. If you zoom all the way into your timeline, you can see every single frames as a thumbnail.

You already have the pro application. You're really only slowing yourself down by rough cutting in iMovie. But do as you will. In the end, it's really only about telling a story. I just prefer to have the least amount of obstacles while doing so.

Reply

Answer 8

May 14, 2010 12:05 PM in response to Ai-Max

# Log & Capture my HDV footage in FCP - ProRes422.
# Move the captured ProRes 422 clips to a new EVENT in iMovie.

WHY...?!?! iMovie 09 converts to AIC. Why not just capture in that format and save yourself unnecessary steps. Learn to use FCP with all the shortcuts and you'll never go back. This is like owning a Ferrari, but putting a Ford engine in it because it "seems" better to you. Stick with what you start with and save the trouble.

Just my $.02
Good luck to you

Reply

Answer 9

Stockholm

Level 1

124 points

May 14, 2010 1:20 PM in response to RedTruck

Hi RedTruck

I wonder if you could tell me how to make the browser in a storyboard sequence and how can I make the icons scrubable

cheers

Hans

Reply

Answer 10

Tom Wolsky

Level 10

151,004 points

May 14, 2010 1:29 PM in response to Stockholm

View>Browser>Icons or Shift-H. Under the Zoom tool select the Hand Scrubber tool.

Reply

Answer 11

Stockholm

Level 1

124 points

May 14, 2010 11:04 PM in response to Tom Wolsky

Tom

Thank you

Reply

Answer 12

Stockholm

Level 1

124 points

May 14, 2010 11:07 PM in response to mtnavaholic

iMovie 08/09 does not convert files to AIC, when you import files.

It only converts files to AIC when importing from a camera

Message was edited by: Stockholm

Reply