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New Powerbook Audio Stutter / Looping / Echo problem

41859 Views 765 Replies Latest reply: Feb 15, 2006 8:50 AM by PFPhotography RSS
  • purepeter Level 2 Level 2 (235 points)
    sorry guys, i would test it first. maybe it doesnt work?

    if it will work, i would like to find out what it was in detail and how they solved it. how i can get this info?
    pb 15 hires | 1,5GB RAM | 500 GB LaCie | Audiophile FW | AE | Soundsticks II, Mac OS X (10.4.4)
  • trxbloke Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)
    I've been trying all my provoking tricks for a good hour now, but no loops. Tied the poor thing in knots a few times though. I guess you can only have so many different audio programmes running before the lot will hang!

    This is looking good, just hope I havent spoken too soon.

    Additionally I have noticed that I cannot get the balance in sound prefs to shift when I rapid toggle the volume keys. Perhaps that was where the fault was all along.

    If this is the end of our lively thread, may I add that it has been a pleasure reading everybody's thoughts and rants! Lets hope we meet again under more favourable circumstances.


    Bryan Harris
    Powerbook 17", 1.67GHz,DL,1.5GB DDR2. OSX 10.4.5
  • Jonathan Rudenborg Calculating status...
    If this really is the fix (which it looks like it is), do you think with equal complaining we could get a display replacment program? The horizontal banding problem is very disapointing considering the cost of this computer!


    PowerBook 1.67    
  • trxbloke Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)
    I would think that would be classified under defective hardware. I would insist on a repair.

    I have a 17 incher (ooeer!) so am not plagued by this. If I were I wouldnt tolerate it.

    From a health and safety point of view, a defective, flickering or visually distracting/disturbing display will lead to eye damage through eye strain. Insist on it being fixed.

    If you are an employer, and your empoyees had to use your PowerBook, they could sue you under health and safety regs in the UK for this fault if it lead to eye strain. Flickering can also lead to Photo Sensitive Epilepsy attacks, potentially fatal!
    Powerbook 17", 1.67GHz,DL,1.5GB DDR2. OSX 10.4.5
  • PFPhotography Calculating status...
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    Feb 14, 2006 5:41 PM (in response to jfelbab)
    please try with VLC if u haven't yet!
    Powerbook G4 DL, Mac OS X (10.4.4)
  • Graham Hancock Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)
    (I hope I'm not speaking too soon.)

    Well guys, it has been several hours and no reports of this problem. Even some of my old tricks to provoke the problem aren't working anymore.

    I have been subscribed to this topic for a VERY long time and every day my Inbox would be filled with pleas for help, possible solutions, and calls to action. Thanks to all those who participated and helped spread the word.
    I think this may [finally] be the end of our horrific past few months experience.

    In other news:
    I tried to spread the word at TUAW and a user is lambasting me over the linkage to the website in my comment. "Mac Diva" as he calls himself is contorting our pleas for help into a Scam for MacBook Pros. If you have the time, please set him straight and let him know that this (was) a very real problem.

    The drama is here: -and-intel-bas/2#c1029655

    I'd appreciate the support.

    ~Graham, Signing off (Hopefully.)
    Powerbook Hi-Res 15" 1.67Ghz, Mac OS X (10.4.4), iPod 5th Gen 30GB | Mac Mini 1.42 | 512 Shuffle
  • TheNewIkuru Calculating status...
    OK! This is IT everyone! After Night there is Dawn!


    I would like to thank Our friend behind My friend who fought for this and everyone else who made this happen.

    Good Bless and may Errors like the echoloop stay in Bad places that are not apple only.
    darn expencive 17 inch with echhhhooooloops, Mac OS X (10.4.4), echoechoechoechoechoecho
  • Jimi Calculating status...
    Well.........I just took the st-st-st ECHO ECHO ECHO out of my sig file. So, that says it all!

    Thanks to all of you who stood up and got this terrible issue resolved. It's a shame this is what it took to get Apple's attention. But as they say, "By any means necessary!"
    15.2 Hi-Res DL PB/2Gig/100gb7200HD, Mac OS X (10.4.4)
  • Scott Denman Calculating status...
    The one on the web site is probably a universal update, for both Intel and PPC Macs, so it contains all of the updates. The one through Software Update just downloads the updates for the PPC version.
    15" PowerBook G4 (DL Super Drive), Mac OS X (10.4.4), 1.5GB RAM, 80GB HD, Lets see what problem pops up next...
  • ddyer Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Feb 14, 2006 11:00 PM (in response to aspenboy)
    Downloaded 10.4.5 while playing a little Bob James James James We'll see. Thanks to all who added their voices and keystrokes in this effort. Let's keep Apple on their toes.

    G4 Powerbook 17", Mac OS X (10.4.4), Mac Classic - IIfx - 6200CD - G4 Silver - G4 Stutterbook
  • hictio Level 1 Level 1 (85 points)
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    Feb 14, 2006 11:12 PM (in response to Jimi)
    I can't believe it!!! I was so depressed thinking I have flushed 2000 U$S I just hope that was our only surprise on this whole PB HR thing.
    I can't believe there wasn't a recall, effing great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    PB 15" HR 1.67 GHz - 512 MB RAM - Make way on the drop down menu for 10.4.5!!!, Mac OS X (10.4.4), Also a (Logic Board) dead 12" dual USB @700 MHz 20 GB HDD
  • TheNewIkuru Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Feb 15, 2006 2:00 AM (in response to ddyer)
    Its great how thoes Apple dudes choose Valentines Day to release the fix! Good thing they did not save it for christmas though... Well hopefully this is me, signing off, good bye everyone... and thanx for Helping and yelling, Peace! (credits start roling)...
    darn expencive 17 inch with echhhhooooloops, Mac OS X (10.4.4), echoechoechoechoechoecho
  • trxbloke Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)
    Out of curiosity I opened up the installer package with Pacifist, to have a look.

    Quite a few new kernel extensions, some power management (CPU speed controll perhaps?) and a new AppleFileSystemDriver.

    I know little about this stuff, but I would like to know what the specific thing is that has cured this problem.

    Anyone with knowledge and Pacifist like to have a look at the installer??

    Anyway, it still seems fine, so Im away to catch up on some work.
    Powerbook 17", 1.67GHz,DL,1.5GB DDR2. OSX 10.4.5
  • BasK Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)
    I'm really glad that this problem is finally solved. I had 2 problems, this echo problem and a display with the lineproblem. My display was fixed last week, so I have a perfect powerbook now (finally)
    But calling with AppleCare has costed me €66,-!(in 1 month!) Do you guys think I can claim that money back? Because Apple promissed me several times things they couldn't deliver, so that forced me to call them back everytime.
    Powerbook g4 15 (DL-DVD), Mac OS X (10.4.4)
  • studiopelletier Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Problem seems solved after 10.4.5, no bug whatsoever for a day now with extensive use of iTunes along with multiple audio softwares running simultaneuously. Hurray !!!!
    Powerbook 15" DDR2, 2GB Ram, 100GB @ 7200 rpm, Mac OS X (10.4.4), Powermac G5 dual 2.7, 5GB Ram


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