Should Macbook Pro sleep with lid open?

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Should Macbook Pro sleep with lid open?

Mine new 15" won't. My wife's 6 mo. old 13" unibody won't either and I've noticed there are quite a few people on these boards who's machines won't sleep with the display open as well. We can get them to sleep no problem by closing the lid but otherwise only the screen sleeps with the display open. Resetting SMC and/or PRAM are often suggested (along with a few other things) but they haven't worked for anybody from what I've read here.

I'm pretty sure this is not right and was hoping someone with more expertise than I could inform me if this is an issue and, if so, is there a way to fix it. Thanks in advance.

iMac 2.8 GHz Quad Core Intel Core i7, 8 GB RAM, Mac OS X (10.6.3), 15.4" MacBook Pro 2.66 GHz Intel Core i7, 8 GB RAM

Posted on Apr 26, 2010 9:16 AM

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Answer 1

Apr 26, 2010 9:54 AM in response to WrongCoaster

Your not alone brother. My New 15" i7 is also not sleeping when the lid is open. Searching around there is a few other threads with the same problem and right now I'm choosing not to restore to fix the problems. I got a Mac so I didn't have to do that crap any more.

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sdschramm

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Apr 26, 2010 1:39 PM in response to Josh Wilkins

Does it sleep if you press the power button and then the letter "S" ?

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WrongCoaster Author

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Apr 26, 2010 3:54 PM in response to WrongCoaster

Below is the console log when energy saver preferences are set to sleep at 1 minute and the display is open.

The CFServiceControllerBgin...... (etc) line repeats several times past what I've copied here and also every time I open an application. Hmmmmmm........ Is this as it should be?

4/26/10 2:52:01 PM com.apple.launchd[1] * launchd[1] has started up. *
4/26/10 2:52:21 PM com.apple.SystemStarter[32] Starting HP IO Monitor
4/26/10 2:52:22 PM com.apple.SystemStarter[32] Starting HP Trap Monitor
4/26/10 2:52:22 PM com.apple.SystemStarter[32] /Library/StartupItems/HP Trap Monitor/HP Trap Monitor: line 15: /Library/Printers/hp/hpio/HPIO Trap Monitor.app/Contents/MacOS/HPIO Trap Monitor: No such file or directory
4/26/10 2:52:35 PM com.apple.launchd.peruser.502[105] (com.apple.ReportCrash) Falling back to default Mach exception handler. Could not find: com.apple.ReportCrash.Self
4/26/10 2:52:36 PM com.apple.launchd.peruser.502[105] (com.apple.Kerberos.renew.plist[128]) Exited with exit code: 1
4/26/10 3:40:40 PM Console[284] __CFServiceControllerBeginPBSLoadForLocalizations timed out while talking to pbs
4/26/10 3:41:42 PM System Preferences[292] __CFServiceControllerBeginPBSLoadForLocalizations timed out while talking to pbs
4/26/10 3:46:21 PM Console[284] __CFServiceControllerBeginPBSLoadForLocalizations timed out while talking to pbs

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Answer 4

Apr 26, 2010 7:20 PM in response to WrongCoaster

This might not technically be sleep mode but it at least turns of the LCD screen. *control + shift + eject button*

I do it all the time.

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WrongCoaster Author

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Apr 26, 2010 7:38 PM in response to LordMerovingian

LordMerovingian wrote:
This might not technically be sleep mode but it at least turns of the LCD screen. *control + shift + eject button*

I do it all the time.

Thanks, I appreciate the tip but for the price of a new MBP I'd rather it sleep itself without any keying.
:>)

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c0heed

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Apr 29, 2010 4:20 AM in response to WrongCoaster

Same problem here... Apple please fix this!

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n748

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May 9, 2010 9:40 AM in response to WrongCoaster

Same problem here:

2010 15" i7 MBP won't sleep...
My 2008 MB 13" does (with pratically the same setup)

What is the problem here???

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Answer 8

May 17, 2010 3:05 PM in response to WrongCoaster

I am trying to determine if it is safe to leave my MacBook Pro lid open for long periods of time. I want to know if my computer is still going to sleep when I do so.

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Rod Hagen

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May 17, 2010 4:04 PM in response to WrongCoaster

Have you checked that you have the latest version of your HP printer drivers installed, WrongCoaster?

If you do a Google you'll find that HP printers and their drivers are often implicated in Mac sleep issues (though they are far from the sole cause) and I see HP mentioned in your log files.

If you have the HP launch agent installed in your "Log-in" items you might first try removing it and seeing whether the problem persists.

(There are many other possibilities with sleep issues, often involving out of date drivers or background software, so post back if this doesn't resolve it, but the info you have provided suggests the HP issue is worth checking out first)

Cheers

Rod

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Rod Hagen

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May 17, 2010 4:06 PM in response to gloriousgloria

Take a look at the little light on the front edge of your computer, gloriousgloria. When it is sleeping properly the light will be gently pulsing.

Cheers

Rod

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Answer 11

May 18, 2010 10:03 AM in response to WrongCoaster

My new Macbook Pro 17in would not go to sleep and I traced the problem to problems in networking. The Console all messages was displaying a network config change message every 70 seconds or so. I did a search on the message on Google and it came back to Apple Discussions over in the getting online and networking section. Over there the guys who were having problems with disconnects on VPN discovered that by deleting the unused Ethernet connection(I am using Airport and a Verizon aircard only) the console mmessage would go away and VPN was fixed. I suspected this same problem was causing sleep problems also because of the frequent console messages and so proceeded to delete the Ethernet connection(it is very easy to add back in if you ever need it). Deleting the connection resulted in proper sleep mode performance. Oddly enough the notebook was sleeping properly on the first day I got it. The only thing I can figure that happened was that I installed the security update the next day and that update has somehow messed up networking. I would expect that this problem should be pretty easy for Apple to fix and hope it will be incorporated in 10.6.4. This problem only occurs on the latest Macbook Pro i5 and i7 models.

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Answer 12

May 18, 2010 10:07 AM in response to John White9

Let me make another point here. Over the years I have found that sleep problems and their source can be traced back to messages displayed in Console. In every case I was able to use Console and find out the source of the sleep problem. In the past I have found problems were caused by bad widgets, networking problems etc.

use the Console to troubleshoot guys.

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dana2123

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May 18, 2010 10:15 AM in response to WrongCoaster

I have a similar question, I am new to Mac. I have a MacBook pro, and a 21 in separate HP monitor, Can I connect my MacBook to the monitor, close the lid, and use an external mouse and keyboard? (similar to a docking station) Right now when I have to monitor connected it uses is as a 2nd monitor,

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amstel78

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May 18, 2010 11:22 AM in response to dana2123

My 15" Core i7 wouldn't sleep with the lid open either, but that issue was easily resolved through the use of a little program called Please Sleep. Google it. It's freeware and works well.

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n748

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May 18, 2010 12:28 PM in response to WrongCoaster

It seems to be a real problem for the new MBPs. See my other post:
http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=11524742#11524742

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