4 Replies Latest reply: Apr 27, 2010 1:47 AM by Ingo2711
TJ65 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
OK, here we go. I have an old Belkin wireless router (F5D6131-4) "B" type, that only uses WEP security. I have done the latest firmware update they offer. My Ipod touch 3d gen, will see the network, when I enter the 128 bit, 26 number/letter encryption, it says invalid password. It works on all 3 of our family laptops. I changed the encryption to 64 bit, with a 10 number/letter passcode, worked on the laptops, not the Ipod. I went to wifi settings on the Ipod, and put in my network manually, so I could be sure the encryption was set to WEP, still no dice. Then I disabled my WEP encryption on my router...works fine, grabs the net and I am surfing. This tells me that the encryption is the problem. So, the Ipod is suppose to handle WEP, what else am I missing ? Do I need to update my router ? I know WEP is outdated and can be cracked, but I dont want to run wide open all the time. Oh, by the way, i have reset the Ipod and the router a few times, still nothing. HELP ????

Ipod touch 3d gen, iPhone OS 3.1.2
  • Ingo2711 Level 7 Level 7 (20,955 points)
    Copied from a reply by luvlabs from this post: http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=11297448&#11297448
    WEP and the Apple (and this applies to more than the touch) interpret the encryption protocol differently and hence the supposed connection "issues". If you want to use WEP successfully, you have to follow the following rules:
    1. Password character length - 5 characters for 48 (64) bit encryption; 13 characters for 128 bit encryption.
    2. Only one WEP key permitted in the router firmware
    3. The WEP key in field Key1 may be used in place of a password. As an alternative, the key printed on the router label can be used.
    This is why I recommend WPA2-psk. It is far more secure than WEP and much easier to implement.

    or this one by *Jason L* from http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=10981107&#10981107
    ...You'll want to use a 5 or 13 character password in order to make sure all devices hash the password the same way, as mentioned here: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1344.
    You can avoid the hashing issues by using the newer and more secure WPA2 Personal protocol.
    If the issue is not caused by the length of the password, try updating the wireless router and/or restarting it.
    You can also try the general Wi-Fi troubleshooting tips in this article: http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1398.
  • TJ65 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I see, in other words use 128 automatic and give it a 13 digit/letter pass code that will refer back to the auto generated encryption. I believe my router supports this, I am on my way to work...I will try it tonight and let you know. Thanks for your reply.
  • TJ65 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I give up, its been 3 more hours tonight, and still not working. Changed to 64 bit using 5 character for the 10 hex/dec code, then back to 13 for the 128 hex/dec - by using the passphrase I created under the auto key assignment, then put that passphrase in my laptop, it would not work either. Buying a new updated router in the morning, it seems the passphrase portion of mine is dead. Thanks for your input.
  • Ingo2711 Level 7 Level 7 (20,955 points)
    You're welcome, Good Luck