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  • Rod Hagen Level 7 Level 7 (31,985 points)
    I'm afraid there is a time limit on editing posts here, Steschwab, so the original post is way beyond updating, but I'll try to compile a list of where we are up to in the next week or so if no-one is able to do so before then (I'm afraid I have very little time available this week).

    Cheers

    Rod
  • Steschwab Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Thanks Rod.
    My question is..is it a problem of apps or is it fixable with an Apple update?Because if it is an issue of applications I think it is hard that all apps would fix it.
  • Matk82 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    ToDoHelper invoke the Nvidia, which is stupid because its just a little wifi sync apps that not use any core animation at all.
  • Semmelrocc Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)
    Default Folder X 4.3.7

    If this Finder plugin is active the computer will never switch back to the Intel HD graphics!
  • tombrus Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Hi Cody,

    You have got another happy user here! Thanks.

    Additional ideas:
    - instead of having this ad hoc list here in the forum would it be an idea to make gfxCardStatus gather the names of apps that cause switching to Nvidia and then sending this list to some central place regularly?
    - furthermore an 'expert-group' could judge which apps indeed need hardcore 3D performance and which ones do not and annotate the list as such.
    - then gfxCardStatus could have another mode (e.g. "community mode") that would listen to this list rather then the apps themselves. This would greatly enhance battery life and reduce annoyance.

    I have Chrome running almost all of the time, which makes me a constant Nvidia user. I do to switch manually all the time. The above scheme would be ideal for me.

    Good idea?

    -Tom
  • TwanCMB Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Also triggering the dedicated GPU:

    - Logic Express


    Expected but not doing so:

    - Final Cut Express
    - Photoshop
    - Remote desktop
    - Steam
  • H3lix Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Skype uses Integrated graphics if you disable the "Enable Skype Video" option in the "Video" tab in preferences.

    Good thing too, 'cause I need skype while in long meetings.
  • Semmelrocc Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)
    The Hit List
  • Ian Crew Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
    Thank you H3lix! That's a wonderful tip!

    Now if the Skype programmers could just get their act together and make it so that it doesn't use the nVidia stuff at all. After all, if DVD Player can operate on intel graphics, video chat should be able to.

    Or, if for some reason, they need the power of the nVidia chip for their video codecs or whatever, H3lix's tip has shown that it shouldn't be that hard for them to tweak things so that the nVidia chip is only activated when a video call is actually in progress.

    Thanks again.
  • Glaiel Gamer Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    steam DOES trigger the dedicated GPU, but it shouldn't unless you launch an actual game
  • the Ramen Noodle Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)
    Google Chrome
    TweetDeck (when you have the Compose field activated)
  • eww Level 9 Level 9 (52,975 points)
    Here's the whole list to date, from above:

    1Password
    Acorn
    Aperture
    AppZapper 2.0.1
    atMonitor
    Bodega
    bowtie
    Chrome
    Clips
    Cloud
    Coda
    Coversutra
    Curio
    Daisy Disk
    Data Rescue 3.0.2
    Default Folder X 4.3.7
    Delibar
    Delicious Library
    Disco
    Drive Genius 3
    Dropcopy
    Droplr
    Ecto
    Espresso
    Evernote (in thumbnail view only)
    Eyetv 3.3
    Fetch
    Foreversave
    Fractal Clock Screen Saver
    Fresh
    Front Row
    GarageBand
    Google Chrome
    Google Earth
    Google Voice & Video plugin
    Hit List
    HyperSpaces
    Images Transfert
    iMovie
    iPhoto 09
    iWeb
    keynote2009
    Koolclip
    LiquidMac
    Little Snapper
    Logic Express
    Lotus SameTime
    MacHG
    MagicPrefs
    Marine Aquarium 3 (Screen Saver)
    Mathematica
    MercuryMover
    Merlin
    Microsoft Office 2004
    Microsoft Office AutoUpdate daemon
    Minefield
    Missing sync for symbian
    Movist
    MS Office Messenger 2008
    NetNewsWire
    Nvu
    OmmWriter
    Pages 2.0.2
    Papers
    Parallels 5 Desktop
    PathFinder
    Photo Booth
    Photoshop CS4
    Photoshop Elements 4
    Picturesque
    Pixelmator
    Plex
    QuickTime Player 7
    RapidWeaver
    RipIt
    Rucksack
    Screen Sharing
    Scribbles
    Sequel Pro
    ShoveBox
    ShrinkIt
    Skim (after searching)
    Skype, if video is enabled
    SnapZPro X
    SnowGlobe
    Socialite
    Steam
    Stellarium
    Times
    Toast Titanium v 8.0.5
    ToDoHelper
    Transmit 4.0
    TunesArt 0.9.3
    TweetDeck
    Tweetie
    Unison
    utorrent
    Vienna
    VLC
    VMware Fusion 3
    VMWare Fusion 3 (gfx acceleration disabled)
    Warp
    X11 or Xquartz
    Xee 2.1.1
    Yahoo Messenger
  • cmose Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    sparrow mail app triggers discrete graphics
  • Matk82 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    HyperDock helper
  • Tony Arnold Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
    It's not completely a matter of the developers of these apps getting their act together (disclosure: I am the developer of Hyperspaces). It's pretty clear to me at this point the technical reasons for the discrete graphics card being activated (it's Core Animation in most cases), but it's not as easy to solve. Apple has encouraged developers to use Core Animation extensively over the last few years, and it's not always easy to replace it with standard, non Core Animation drawing.

    I know some of us have tried (and some have succeeded), but doing this in Hyperspaces almost doubled the amount of work I had to do originally - even in the "sloppy" fashion that I did. Just don't assume things "shouldn't be that hard".

    In my mind, it would be better if Apple handed back some control of graphics card selection to users as with previous MacBooks - it's obviously bothering you guys, and it's quite a bit of work for some of us to go back and retrofit our apps after Apple espoused the amount of code we'd save by using Core Animation and other accelerated graphics technologies in the first place.

    Auto-switching seems to be a great idea in theory, but the reality is a bit wonky.