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  • maceasy Level 1 (20 points)
    While not expecting the new MBP's to be as good as the new iMacs, still I thought they might get close. But looking at the figures people are returning it is striking how good the i5 and i7 Imacs are doing. They get about 50 tracks, compared to the 8 cores about 70. That makes the MBP look disappointing in comparison. It has put me off getting one, though it has made me think seriously about an iMac, despite the drawbacks. The Mac Pros are too expensive, the quad is slower than an iMac, and we have been waiting too long for news of an upgrade - I guess Apple has more important things to develop.
  • Mike Connelly Level 4 (1,785 points)
    While iMacs and MBPs are both i5 and i7, the i7 in the MBP is dual core while the one in the iMac is quad (with hyperthreading in both versions). There's going to be a big difference in performance right there for any apps that use multiple cores.

    It's confusing naming, they really should make the difference between the dual and quad versions of those chips more obvious (or make i5 dual only and i7 quad only).

    And I don't know if trying the test with Logic Express is going to give you a result that can really be compared since it doesn't include Space Designer.
  • maceasy Level 1 (20 points)
    Thanks, Mike, that explains the discrepancy. As you say it is not clear that the i5's are so different. So what we really need in the MBP is a quad i5 or i7, then we will see some progress.
  • Pancenter Level 6 (9,450 points)
    Fired up FauxMac, (dualcore) it managed 29 tracks with Logic-8.

    pancenter-
  • djanthonyw Level 1 (15 points)
    My Mac Pro is first generation and doesn't have 8 cores, it only has 4.
  • djanthonyw Level 1 (15 points)
    Yes, but my point is that my 2.2 C2D 2007 MBP can play 18 tracks from that test vs 22 on a new MBP i7. Something doesn't seem right at all, it should be on par with my first gen Mac Pro which can play 28 tracks.

    Also, I did post the test with Space Designer removed and with that I got 25 tracks on my MBP and 45 tracks with my Mac Pro. As I also mentioned earlier, my test with the all of the new MBP's, i5 and i7 were about the same as my MBP. Something is surely not right.
  • maceasy Level 1 (20 points)
    Sounds about right to me. The new ones aren't a massive speed bump on the old ones.
  • Mike Connelly Level 4 (1,785 points)
    As I said, there may be something about Logic Express that makes the comparison invalid.

    The new i7 laptop should be a big improvement since the i7 includes hyperthreading, meaning it has two full cores plus two partial cores (which Logic does use) for a total of four. In many benchmarks they have been as much as 50% faster than the old ones, which I'd consider a big improvement.
  • Muzicman Level 2 (250 points)
    64 tracks on the 2008 2.8 8-Core Mac Pro. Maybe I could get a few more because only 7 of the 8 Cores were maxed. This was using Logic 9.1.1 in 32 bit.

    70 tracks looping well using 64bit.

    I'm satisfied with the old Mac dog showing some new tricks.
  • dingdangdawg Level 2 (455 points)
    Thanks for this benchmark, it should come in useful.

    I got up to 19 tracks on my MacBook (early 2008) 2.4 GHz Core Duo with 4 GB memory. After that, my lights dimmed, and dogs started howling all through the neighborhood.
  • thedomus Level 1 (20 points)
    Oh Dear!
    I can run 22 tracks on a C2D 2.93ghz MBP from early 2009!
    Thats no improvement in Logic for the i7's
  • djanthonyw Level 1 (15 points)
    I know, that's what I can't quite understand. It seems the benchmarks are showing a huge improvement with everything except for Logic.
  • Eriksimon Level 6 (12,125 points)
    FauxMac? What's that?
  • Mike Connelly Level 4 (1,785 points)
    Checked at home and got 60 tracks on my i7 tower. That's about what my eight core MP can do, but with twice as many cores.

    Apple REALLY needs to update Logic to use more than eight cores, right now on the high end MP it's not even trying to use half the cores (including HT).
  • Mental78 Level 1 (0 points)
    i haven t bought a new MBP to get these poor performance in logic !i hope they fix this !
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