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Jan 5, 2011 3:08 PM in response to cam13by cworsey,I also have a late-2008 15in mbp. first freeze a few weeks ago. on restart just gray screen with spinning icon. Re-installed EVERYTHING fresh from original disk. Ran fine for a couple weeks. Froze again while copying a 35g file from iMac over home network. MBP started getting hotter, fan kicked up, then transfer failed at the very end (initiated from iMac) while my MBP locked up. Fortunately this time i was able to get it restarted with just power button. Seemed to boot up ok. This has GOT to be some software issue as there are a couple of us 'older' MBP users out there that have coincidentally gotten the same issue as you new folks. (oh, after restarting i tried to install new software updates and they failed...hmmm...NEVER had that before) Something is going on that's fishy. -
Jan 5, 2011 3:25 PM in response to Artitronby plg,I took my MBP in to my local apple dealer a couple of days ago. After extensive testing all hardware passed ... except during several tests the technician reported that the laptop "froze". Surprise surprise. Apple is not willing to exchange the machine for a new one because it's more than 30 days old. (it's about 50 days old). Next step replace the logic board and then wait to see if it freezes again. Will report result here. -
Jan 6, 2011 12:41 PM in response to Artitronby digital1313,I have had my MBP since May of 2010, have not had an issue till 12/24/2010, when the OS would just freeze during the load up screen.
Things I have done:
OSX software updater - ran prior with no updates avail
Ran hardware test - said fine
Verified disk and permissions - fine
Uninstalled adobe flash player - issue still persist
Uninstalled adobe light room (most recently installed program) - issue still persist
installed graphics switching app setting to dedicated and non dedicated graphics card - issues still persist
OS reinstall with time capsule - issue still persist
OS reinstall with no time capsule - issue still persist
Uninstalled adobe light room (most recently installed program) - issue still persist
Reset the SMC based on different forum topic suggestions
Upgrades:
Ram upgrade from stock 4gb to 8 gb back in May, pass all test on this MPB, and used it in mac mini with no issues.
Stock 500gb HD
This computer ran like a dream till the end of December, closest apple store is almost 4 hours away, kinda at my wits end.
Any suggestions of things I should try? -
Jan 6, 2011 12:44 PM in response to Artitronby plg,Apple certified technician at local apple dealer (not apple store) called today, he replaced the logic board. not because a diagnostic showed that was needed, but because he was out of ideas. Ran all diagnostics with new logic board and as before everything passed. He suggests I try the machine for a while and see if I still get the freezes. Ugh.
Know what? In the meantime I have been using Ubuntu (10.10) on an old generic desktop intel CPU and boy is it (a) fast (b) stable and (c) nice looking. -
Jan 6, 2011 4:43 PM in response to plgby bacon55,Hi, I have a late 2009 MBP 13'' 2.26 that originally came with 2*1 GB of RAM and a 5400rpm 160GB disk. I've upgraded the disk to Western Digital Scorpio Black with 320GB @ 7200rpm and also RAM to 2*2GB g-skill ddr3. From that time my computer started to act funny and kept being sluggish and it became pretty annoying. I had to do a fresh install on zeroed-out disk but that helped till last week. Then it started to appear again and made me do all the fsck -y, repair permissions, disk verifying, and all sorts of thing found on the internet.
So I've decided to copy some of my Logic projects onto a external disk and that took an eternity to copy 949MBs. Same thing happened with other disks/usbs. When it finally managed to copy the 949MB at a speed of one legged ant I've decided to do one more fresh install.
But first I made a hardware test that told me every piece of hardware was OK.
Moving on, I've formatted my disk and started installing SL. It is as fast as Michael Phelps in swimming pool but exactly the opposite.
It has literally been installing SL for 3 hours by now. And it still says 14 mins left, same as 50 minutes ago.
Not to mention that I've lost all my music and preferences, and by weird coincidence I live from playing that exact music.
So please apple, what the heck is wrong with my MBP ?
P.S. I managed to install 10.6.6. update thinking that it might do the thing, but when the install and reboot was complete it was time to log on. I typed my password and the blue screen would appear, just the one that appears before the log on screen. Then the log on screen appeared again. This game of ours has been stopped by a gray screen telling me that I have to shut down my computer by holding power button. -
Jan 6, 2011 4:53 PM in response to bacon55by Duk242,Bacon, this has nothing to do with the issue in this thread. Start your own thread. From the looks of it, it's probably the new ram or hdd you put in, swap it back to the stuff you got with your MacBook and see if the problem is fixed...
I thought I'd also update, my MacBook had the full graphics lockup a couple times since I bought it, it's now not having the issue and everything is fine, no crashes for over 6 months now. -
Jan 6, 2011 5:03 PM in response to Duk242by bacon55,Sorry, I didn't write it correctly. It DID work for some time with that new config and then it started to act funny after some time. On the old config it happened from time to time but then I've installed fancontrol that helped pretty much. -
Jan 6, 2011 6:06 PM in response to Artitronby macfanta,I actually using Firefox instead Safari, never freezed again.
Will update to 10.6.6 now (I'm 10.6.4).
pray for me. -
Jan 6, 2011 8:05 PM in response to macfantaby cworsey,Update - Froze several times today. Seems when it's trying to write something to disk. I hear clicking, etc. then spinning wheel then freezes. Curiously on rebooting to Bootcamp and W7 runs fine. Back to OSX and issues. I thought it may be my disk. Disk Utility checks out perfect. I think we've got a OS issue here. I noticed a new download today. We'll see. -
Jan 6, 2011 8:33 PM in response to macfantaby macfanta,my boot is very slow now...
resetted PRAM, SMC...
I'm very disappointed with apple... -
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Jan 7, 2011 4:18 AM in response to Kopyby bacon55,so much for apple's reliability...
it's funny that no one from apple is at least telling us that they are aware of the problem. They are treating their users like fools... -
Jan 7, 2011 9:31 AM in response to bacon55by Kopy,THEY KNOW IT!
for sure..
When i called to them they asked me for my SERIAL NUMBER..
AND in a begining they decided replace my laptop..
A day after they decide to not remplace it....!!!
I supposse they had a lot of serials to replace,so better not change it to me and for others in a future....
STRANGE!! -
Jan 8, 2011 6:42 PM in response to Kopyby JNonaz,Kopy wrote:
By the way....
As im a producer and dj,i have around 65000 followers in Myspace,1200 on facebook and more...
So is good all of us advice of this Big Problem....i done it on my state,blogs,and all newsletter....
Hope at least my followers are adviced....
STOP THIS !!
Please do it!!
Post on your blog about this issue that Apple feign to ignore.
*I will become mad due to theses repetitive freezes !!*
I was hoping this issue would be resolved with the time but *there is now 6 month I bought this MBP (MBP Core i7 2,66 Ghz) and no bug fix.*
*Please Apple do something.*
*Please Engadget, Gizmodo, macrumors ... warn people about this issue.*
If anybody can attract the attention of medias it will be good for all of us who have paid more than 2500$ for a combinaison Hardware/Software not working properly (probably due to the GPU switch).
*I never had a Windows based machine with so much bluescreen !!*
*It is unbelievable ... sometimes it is 5 times a day.*
If I don't have one in a week I feel lucky.
*I also encourage you to send bug reports (kernel panics submissions) to apple with a message like this one:*{quote:title= }{quote}
Please correct this Intermittent Freezing Bug:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2420192
The thread is 90 pages now.
I will become mad !!
Please have mercy for all of us who have this bug occurring sometimes many times a day.
Please please ...
Perhaps they will read it ... -
Jan 10, 2011 5:24 PM in response to digital1313by douglas3e8,@digital1313: Same like so many others (myself included).
My suggestions are:
1) Reset PRAM/NVRAM (Same/diff on Intel MBP)
2) Stay on Nvidia graphics only (gfxCardStatus 2.0 works well)
3) Set Computer Sleep to "Never", Display Sleep to "3 hours" (in case you forget about it), and turn off Put Hard Disks to Sleep When Possible.
I have the screen glitch on my 2.66GHz MBP when the system switches between Intel and Nvidia graphics (only after resetting the PRAM/NVRAM), constant freezes (with and without mouse movement) when waking from sleep and other times, and other odd startup anomalies. However, as much as it seems like a hardware failure, my research and trial-and-error is suggesting it lies in the firmware, perhaps the Hardware Abstraction Layer. I have 8GB GSkill ram the tests fine, and a OWC 120GB hard drive in an MCE exclosure (in the Superdrive bay), and only by doing 1-3 can I have a (pseudo-)stable system. It does not matter the hard drive (I've tried 4), the connection (SATA, FW800, USB), or OS version (10.6.4 - 10.6.6 all do the same). Oddly, booting from the MBP CD yielded a stable, albeit slow system. But I only tried once and one data point isn't enough. :P
My last - and best - piece of advice: keep backups up to date!