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Q: MacBook Pro (2010) Freeze

Anyone else with the new i7 MBP experiencing a hard freeze? No Grey Screen of Death, just freezing screen and input. Only remedy is to hold the power button to cycle the power.

It has frozen twice in the last week. Both times the machine was on battery power and certainly not under load - just light browsing, no gaming.

Just curious if this is going to be a longer term problem...

[System]
Model Identifier: MacBookPro6,2
Processor Name: Intel Core i7
Processor Speed: 2.66 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 2
Memory: 8 GB

[Serial ATA]
Model: APPLE SSD TS512B
Revision: AGAA0206

MacBook Pro (2010), Mac OS X (10.6.3), Intel Core i7 2.66, Apple 512GB SSD

Posted on May 3, 2010 1:56 PM

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  • by FiveLittleFish,

    FiveLittleFish FiveLittleFish May 26, 2010 1:52 PM in response to califfo1975
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    Notebooks
    May 26, 2010 1:52 PM in response to califfo1975
    Intel:
    Device ID: 0x0046
    Revision ID: 0x0012
    gMux Version: 1.9.21

    Nvidia
    Device ID: 0x0a29
    Revision ID: 0x00a2
    ROM Revision: 3532
    gMux Version: 1.9.21

    No freezes so far, in a month.
  • by Appelflap,

    Appelflap Appelflap May 26, 2010 1:54 PM in response to Artitron
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    May 26, 2010 1:54 PM in response to Artitron
    Ok great!

    If every one that has OR does not have freeze problems can post the info the we can make a list, and maybe find a possible cause.

    Please post your number of freeze's together with the info.

    I had 0 freezes with my current macbook pro.

    My 15" had at least 7 freezes and i am sure it was gMux Version 1.9.21
  • by califfo1975,

    califfo1975 califfo1975 May 26, 2010 2:01 PM in response to Appelflap
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    iPad
    May 26, 2010 2:01 PM in response to Appelflap
    FULLY AGREE. in spite of this, there are already some contradictions...
    Artitron has same gmux and lower ROM than me, he had no freezes up to date whilst I had one....
    ROM 3532 + gmux 1.9.21 seems to be the guilty / bad combination but fivelittlefish post seems to counter-respond to this assumption.
    The sample is too small for the time being but let's try to have more information. POST YOUR DATA guys!!
    These differences should be nevertheless addressable by FW update!!!!
    Emanuele
  • by Dev Pras,

    Dev Pras Dev Pras May 26, 2010 2:17 PM in response to Artitron
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    May 26, 2010 2:17 PM in response to Artitron
    Intel HD Graphics:

    Chipset Model: Intel HD Graphics
    Type: GPU
    Bus: Built-In
    VRAM (Total): 288 MB
    Vendor: Intel (0x8086)
    Device ID: 0x0046
    Revision ID: 0x0012
    gMux Version: 1.9.21

    NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M:

    Chipset Model: NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M
    Type: GPU
    Bus: PCIe
    PCIe Lane Width: x16
    VRAM (Total): 512 MB
    Vendor: NVIDIA (0x10de)
    Device ID: 0x0a29
    Revision ID: 0x00a2
    ROM Revision: 3523
    gMux Version: 1.9.21
    Displays:
    Color LCD:
    Resolution: 1440 x 900
    Pixel Depth: 32-Bit Color (ARGB8888)

    3 FREEZES Before installing gfxcard status

    1 FREEZE on gfx with Intel graphics.

    Currently on NVIDIA (no switchin) - havent observed any freezes for 3 days
  • by mgcharlie,

    mgcharlie mgcharlie May 26, 2010 2:26 PM in response to Dev Pras
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    May 26, 2010 2:26 PM in response to Dev Pras
    Dev Pras, are you suggesting gfxcardstatus may be a factor?

    For people reporting that everything is fine: remember to run your macbooks on battery and report what gfx card were running at the moment of the freeze, or if automatically switch is enabled.
  • by jgmdean,

    jgmdean jgmdean May 26, 2010 2:26 PM in response to Artitron
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    May 26, 2010 2:26 PM in response to Artitron
    Interesting. My 17" i7 matte screen was store bought at an Apple Store here in Texas, and I have:

    Intel:
    Device ID: 0x0046
    Revision ID: 0x0012
    gMux Version: 1.9.22

    Nvidia
    Device ID: 0x0a29
    Revision ID: 0x00a2
    ROM Revision: 3532
    gMux Version: 1.9.22

    I had two freezes a while ago followed by an unbootable drive (gray screen) that was fixed by a permissions & disk repair.

    I'm guessing "gMux" is the Graphics Multiplexer, i.e. the part that does the actual switching.
  • by Dev Pras,

    Dev Pras Dev Pras May 26, 2010 2:37 PM in response to mgcharlie
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    May 26, 2010 2:37 PM in response to mgcharlie
    I am not saying gfxcard status is a factor. i said that because i wanted ppl to know that i didnt know if it was using intel or nvidia during the freezes. I have all freezes while it was plugged in throughout.

    What i have observed though is that There was VLC player running all 4 times. I dont know if it could be that reason - MY VLC has been crashing for a while now. two days ago - just deleted and installed a newer version - dont know why it hadnt updated ??
  • by Dev Pras,

    Dev Pras Dev Pras May 26, 2010 2:38 PM in response to Dev Pras
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    May 26, 2010 2:38 PM in response to Dev Pras
    ** VLC player has been crashing ever since i turned off the dynamic switching!
  • by dliang,

    dliang dliang May 26, 2010 2:42 PM in response to Artitron
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    May 26, 2010 2:42 PM in response to Artitron
    Here are the specs for mine which have the freezing issue at least once a day on normal usage:

    Chipset Model: NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M
    Type: GPU
    Bus: PCIe
    PCIe Lane Width: x16
    VRAM (Total): 512 MB
    Vendor: NVIDIA (0x10de)
    Device ID: 0x0a29
    Revision ID: 0x00a2
    ROM Revision: 3540
    gMux Version: 1.9.22

    Chipset Model: Intel HD Graphics
    Type: GPU
    Bus: Built-In
    VRAM (Total): 288 MB
    Vendor: Intel (0x8086)
    Device ID: 0x0046
    Revision ID: 0x0018
    gMux Version: 1.9.22

    New Machine (No Issues Yet) have the same ROM and gMux versions though, been using it for two days now with moderate / heavy usage.
  • by Appelflap,

    Appelflap Appelflap May 26, 2010 3:33 PM in response to dliang
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    May 26, 2010 3:33 PM in response to dliang
    Did anyone try resetting the SMC to see if that helps anything ?

    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3964
  • by mgcharlie,

    mgcharlie mgcharlie May 26, 2010 4:03 PM in response to Dev Pras
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    May 26, 2010 4:03 PM in response to Dev Pras
    Dev Pras,

    I was observing this pattern: unplugged macbook using discrete graphics.

    You're telling me during the freeze of your macbook you were plugged in and gfx was reporting the use of integrated graphics.

    This is completely oposite to the pattern I'm observing on this thread.

    Could you confirm there is no spinning weel, pointer works and nothing else moves on screen during the freeze?

    Thank you very much.
  • by Appelflap,

    Appelflap Appelflap May 26, 2010 4:16 PM in response to Artitron
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    May 26, 2010 4:16 PM in response to Artitron
    Found this (dont know if it i recent): http://www.lawyerseek.com/Practice/Consumer-Protection-C21/Aluminum-Macbook-Macb ook-Pro-Crashes-P209/

    Looks like some people are getting upset.
  • by [Tee]derDoc[DMC],

    [Tee]derDoc[DMC] [Tee]derDoc[DMC] May 26, 2010 4:50 PM in response to Appelflap
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    May 26, 2010 4:50 PM in response to Appelflap
    I got my 17" i7 MBP CTO about 2 weeks ago.
    Had two freezes last week while running on cable ethernet and USB mouse connected, just normal programming work, nothing special. No entry in the syslog either.
    Should have been running on nvidia, since I always have skype running in the bg which apparently causes a switch to nvidia. Since I found this thread I have downloaded gfxcardstatus and set it to intel-only, have had no issues since then, but haven't run with USB mouse and ethernet since.
    Normally I run with Wifi and no USB connected, haven't had any freeze while doing that.
    I have a 256SSD in case it matters. My specs are:
    SMC Version (system): 1.57f17
    Intel HD Graphics:

    Chipset Model: Intel HD Graphics
    Type: GPU
    Bus: Built-In
    VRAM (Total): 288 MB
    Vendor: Intel (0x8086)
    Device ID: 0x0046
    Revision ID: 0x0018
    gMux Version: 1.9.22
    Displays:
    Color LCD:
    Resolution: 1920 x 1200
    Pixel Depth: 32-Bit Color (ARGB8888)
    Main Display: Yes
    Mirror: Off
    Online: Yes
    Built-In: Yes

    NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M:

    Chipset Model: NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M
    Type: GPU
    Bus: PCIe
    PCIe Lane Width: x16
    VRAM (Total): 512 MB
    Vendor: NVIDIA (0x10de)
    Device ID: 0x0a29
    Revision ID: 0x00a2
    ROM Revision: 3540
    gMux Version: 1.9.22
    Displays:
    Display Connector:
    Status: No Display Connected
    Display Connector:
    Status: No Display Connected
  • by Dev Pras,

    Dev Pras Dev Pras May 26, 2010 4:52 PM in response to mgcharlie
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    May 26, 2010 4:52 PM in response to mgcharlie
    i believe that the problem is in the switching as well. HENCE the 3 crashes might be during the switching because i did not have gfxcardstatus installed so i didnt know...after that i was on intel. and observed a similar freeze while i was on Intel and not dyanmic switiching on gfxcard status.

    yes theres no spiinning wheel , cursor works for a while..and then doesnt move at all.. comes back up in 5-8 minutes
  • by Mauricio N.,

    Mauricio N. Mauricio N. May 26, 2010 5:13 PM in response to Artitron
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    May 26, 2010 5:13 PM in response to Artitron
    Chipset Model: NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M
    Type: GPU
    Bus: PCIe
    PCIe Lane Width: x16
    VRAM (Total): 512 MB
    Vendor: NVIDIA (0x10de)
    Device ID: 0x0a29
    Revision ID: 0x00a2
    ROM Revision: 3540
    gMux Version: 1.9.21

    Chipset Model: Intel HD Graphics
    Type: GPU
    Bus: Built-In
    VRAM (Total): 288 MB
    Vendor: Intel (0x8086)
    Device ID: 0x0046
    Revision ID: 0x0018
    gMux Version: 1.9.21

    just to clear things up, the issue I'm experiencing is exactly the same as OP's MBP before his replacement, which means:
    - freezes at random;
    - no gray screen;
    - no screen artifacts. Things just freeze and stay as is;
    - input freezes (keyboard, mouse and trackpad). No beachball;
    - hard reboot required;
    - mouse cursor doesn't move for a while before complete freezing. Everything hangs at once;
    - system doesn't respond upon waiting. Hard reboot is non optional
    - freezes even when plugged and with gpu switching disabled.

    Message was edited by: Mauricio N.
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