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Aug 17, 2010 5:03 PM in response to GoTVolsby RockTheGlobe,Artitron gives the best advice to all of you having problems and continuing to post on here and look for a solution on these boards. Replace you new Macbook i5 or i7, please.<<</div>
It's not like Apple is just handing out replacement machines to anyone coming into their stores. I'm having to jump through hoops since they want to replace individual components on my machine before they think about just giving me an entirely new computer. I'm getting a new logic board this weekend, and if that fails to correct the problem, then they'll replace the hard drive. If that fails, then they might give me a new machine. -
Aug 17, 2010 7:41 PM in response to newhamburgby ccashman92,Still freezing after update!! UGH!!!
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Aug 17, 2010 8:29 PM in response to ccashman92by louise_b,I'm pretty sure it's associated with automatic graphics switching. I turned the switching off last week and didn't have any trouble until I turned it back on this morning after installing the update - and it froze straight away. Have been in contact with apple support and they've made the usual suggestions (resetting PRAM (?), running hardware check etc). We'll see. -
Aug 17, 2010 9:10 PM in response to louise_bby Graham K. Rogers,I thought it might be associated with the switching, but turning it off did no good. None of the repairs did anything either so I reinstalled the OS. Freezing continued. The occasional change in settings (PRAM, plists) gave an appearance of a return to stability, but always a couple of days later, gremlins returned.
At the weekend I wiped the disk, but it froze during the reinstall. And again during the extended hardware test; and when I tried wiping the disk again, froze over and over. Target mode does work so data was recovered. I have 3 or 4 ideas: graphics, hard disk (target mode suggests not), logic board, or something as yet undiscovered.
The Mac sits in my office in bubblewrap waiting for collection and I am working off a Mac mini. Disappointed (not in the Mac mini, I might add). -
Aug 17, 2010 9:16 PM in response to ccashman92by newhamburg,I did following steps before i used the SL Graphics-Update these days:
- TechTool Deluxe Hardware Check
- Reset SMC
- Updated Flash Player (H.264 GPU Decoding)
- Updated gfxCardStatus App to latest version
Maybe this helps. Its catchy but dont think different in this case.. think positive! =) -
Aug 18, 2010 12:44 AM in response to newhamburgby SimonB76,Looks like Apple have released an gfx update for Snow Leopard - which potentially "Resolves an image corruption issue that may occur when disconnecting and reconnecting external displays while the system is running.". -
Aug 18, 2010 12:55 AM in response to Randy Kuiteby joo_p23,may i ask why can't you return it if your mbp freezes up? -
Aug 18, 2010 7:23 AM in response to louise_bby gmarinov,I've posted about this in the past. on my machine i can actually trigger a freeze by using a hardware monitor, called IORegistryExplorer, the one included with XCode. If that is running at the moment graphics switch, my computer freezes, and remains accessible only via SSH (under certain conditions).
My suspicion is the subsystem that posts notification of changes in the hardware tree, which obviously cause a mess under certain conditions. That makes gfxcardstatus a suspect in my setup. Hence why I have not installed it at all, and suggest that realtime system utilities are kept to a minimum (I do use iStatPro on the dashboard).
Hope this helps someone. -
Aug 18, 2010 7:28 AM in response to gmarinovby mgcharlie,have you reported a bug to apple with the steps to reproduce the freeze?
http://bugreport.apple.com/
If not, please, do it right now!
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Aug 18, 2010 8:11 AM in response to mgcharlieby gmarinov,mgcharlie wrote:
have you reported a bug to apple with the steps to reproduce the freeze?
i have. it's been staying "open" ever since. -
Aug 18, 2010 10:09 AM in response to gmarinovby CrimsonKain,Here's my experience with this problem:
I'm pretty sure the problem isn't isolated to just the switching between cards. I think just operating using the nVidia card/drivers causes the issue. If you disable the automatic switching you'll use the nVidia card less often and therefore run into the problem less frequently. When using Parallels, for example, the nVidia card still runs even with switching disabled. I think this is why some people experience the issue more/less than others. Some people, like myself, use Parallels 100% of the time I use my Mac so the nVidia card is always running and the problem happens to me all the time.
I've been using gfxCardStatus for a little over a week now (thanks to this thread) and keeping it set to "Intel only" has allowed me to run without freezing the entire time. It kind of stinks though because Parallels with Windows 7 (Aero) runs pretty slowly without the nVidia card.
I'm going to try out today's update and see if that allows me to safely switch back to nVidia. -
Aug 18, 2010 11:19 AM in response to CrimsonKainby slog,This is way beyond unbelievable. Loyal customers, myself included are waiting to spend thousands of dollars on an Apple Macbook Pro and don't know when it's safe to do so because of this issue. Come on Apple, get real and let us know if this latest update is supposed to do the trick. We just need to know. That's all. -
Aug 18, 2010 11:40 AM in response to CrimsonKainby CrimsonKain,Amusingly enough when I went to install the update I froze right at the end. Then when I booted up it froze several times before allowing me to log in (after many many hard reboots). I'm guessing it uses the nVidia card during boot up. Once I got into OSX and hit "intel only" stability returned. -
Aug 18, 2010 12:03 PM in response to SimonB76by du9207,SimonB76 wrote:
Looks like Apple have released an gfx update for Snow Leopard - which potentially "Resolves an image corruption issue that may occur when disconnecting and reconnecting external displays while the system is running.".
has this update worked for anybody???
did this solve the problem??? -
Aug 18, 2010 12:35 PM in response to Artitronby Markus Weldon,I'm just about to install the update myself, i'll report back in a day or so. As i too am experiencing this issue. It happens all the time randomly and the only way to regain access to my Macbook Pro, is to starve it of power by holding down the power button.