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  • johnostrowick Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Hi. I assume this has already been said, but just in case:

    1. Reading. You can use Sigil, Stanza, Adobe Digital Editions (ADE), or Calibre to read iBooks. The iBooks are stored in ~/Music/iTunes/iTunes Music/Books/ (each of these is a folder inside a folder inside your home folder). Just install one of the above programs and double-click your ebook. If the ebook is DRM-protected, you might be able to read it with ADE- I've not tried this yet. Most of my epubs are Gutenberg editions from Feedbooks.com or Manybooks.net. Those epubs are out-of-copyright and have no DRM.

    2. Future readability. Epubs are an open content format (unless DRM'ed). They're basically zip files of websites - just a folder full of html files and images. So they are good for archival purposes. As for claiming that Kindle is the way to go, I disagree. It's completely closed. And I think Amazon is more likely to lose to Apple, given how Apple has taken the market with iOS devices. And not only is Amazon's format closed, but it has the same threat over it that iBooks does: Amazon can delete files off your device and their files are DRM'ed. At least SOME epubs - the ones worth reading - aren't.
  • JF Grissom Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    @Johnostrowick,

    Thanks so much for posting this...

    I just tried reading an iBooks epub with ADE (No luck, they just show up with blank pages). The other readers didn't work either.

    I had hoped this would do the trick, so I really appreciate your post.

    I'm a total Apple "fanboy" but I'm actually going to pass on iBooks, for now.

    Earlier this year I moved. To my dismay during the move, I had over 1,000 books I've purchased in hard form over the years.

    After packing and moving all those books, and seeing how many were out-dated, I decided to only buy digital books from now on.

    I purchased my first iBook on my iPhone one day, and began reading it (The whole time thinking, "The Mac App store must have an iBooks reader. Every other ePub reader does, surely Apple will.")...

    When I go home I realized that I couldn't read the 1 and only iBook I have purchased, on my Mac.

    I've since waited for months, but no go...

    I don't have an iPad, and I won't be getting one for a while yet (I'm waiting for an iPad with a retina display).

    I've finally given up on reading iBooks on my Mac, and repurchased a Kindle edition of my first digital book purchase (Kindle app is free on iPhone and Mac. I think for iPad too...).

    So I've thrown in the towel, and went with a Kindle version of the SAME book I purchased in iBooks.

    At least with Kindle, I can read it on my Mac, and My iPhone. I'm also, pretty sure it will work on iPad when I get one. (I'm hoping Kindle has the same note taking, high-lighting, and bookmarking features that iBooks has, but that is really a secondary if I can't actually read the book right?)

    Thanks so much for your post, it was the closest thing I've been able to find.

    =)
  • Tom Gewecke Level 9 Level 9 (74,955 points)
    If the ebook is DRM-protected, you might be able to read it with ADE


    No, you cannot read books you buy from the iBookstore with any app other than iBooks -- they have drm that makes it impossible. This has a been established since this thread was started last May, and ADE has been discussed here last October.
  • one of the joes Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    The Kindle Mac app syncs with iPhone, so you can can alternate reading the same book on both devices and recall the last page read. Each respective Kindle application syncs with each other automatically each time they're launched.

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  • MacinNW_Brent Level 1 Level 1 (90 points)
    It is sad that the DRM is application specific. I own the ePub file not whichever application I purchased it through.

    I can not find any mention of iBooks for Mac being included in the upcoming Mac OS X, 10.7, but I am keeping my fingers crossed.

    For now, I'm going to be re-purchasing the book through Kindle for Mac.

    Sorry Apple. I have over 500 audio books I can listen to on any Apple device I wish to, why can't I do the same with ebooks with Apple software? And have it the software bring me to where I left off is the standard to meet.
  • HomerS Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Just to be clear: You can open and read "free" iBooks with ADE but not paid iBooks
  • Tom Gewecke Level 9 Level 9 (74,955 points)
    Just to be clear: You can open and read "free" iBooks with ADE but not paid iBooks


    Yes! And everyone knew this 6 months ago too. Moreover, there is no app that can read paid iBooks on an OS X device so far.
  • pendingfun Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Apple has just released a free application for this as of 4/1/2011.

    Happy AFD!
  • R. Hamilton Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
    I just tried it - Stanza or Adobe Digital Editions can read one that's entirely unrestricted; but neither reads one that has some protection on it (the Winnie-The-Pooh that comes with iBooks is protected, but the iPhone User Guide is not, and they could only read the second of those).

    Calibre can therefore probably convert the unprotected ones to other ebook formats.

    I don't know if any existing tool will read books protected with iBooks DRM (or strip it).
    I suspect that they use their own DRM scheme that's different from some others used with ePub
    format.
  • Tom Gewecke Level 9 Level 9 (74,955 points)
    I just tried it - Stanza or Adobe Digital Editions can read one that's entirely unrestricted; but neither reads one that has some protection on it


    Yes, everyone has known this for many months now.

    I don't know if any existing tool will read books protected with iBooks DRM


    I do know. There is no app that can read paid iBooks on an OS X device so far.
  • jackinmaine Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Very frustrating, indeed.

    I bought a book to gain knowledge without any caveat that I had to read it on an iPad. What law gives Apple the right to restrict the way I learn? Sadly, in this day and age, I'm sure there is a law that allows them to do this, and it disgusts me.
  • Tom Gewecke Level 9 Level 9 (74,955 points)
    What law gives Apple the right to restrict the way I learn? Sadly, in this day and age, I'm sure there is a law that allows them to do this, and it disgusts me.


    Are you objecting to the copyright laws which allow authors/publishers to require people like Apple or Amazon or Barnes/Noble to put DRM on their eworks? That has nothing to do with Apple itself, so aim your disgust elsewhere.

    Or is it that you think there should be a law requiring Apple to create an iBooks app for OS X?
  • purpleaster Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I keep searching for this answer every time I look for a new digital book, in the hopes that the answer has changed. It's really odd on Apple's part. I categorically won't buy any iBooks until they release an app to allow me to read my books on my Mac.

     

    If there were no choice, it'd be another story. But, now we have both Google Books & Kindle apps for the ipad/iphone. Many books can be purchased through any of the 3 services. Kindle books don't look as good. But, Google books look fine, and can be read on iPad/iPhone and on the computer (as well as purchased there).

     

    Apple needs to fix this issue -- I do believe it's under their control (since other providers of the same content do provide multiple means of access).

  • Tom Gewecke Level 9 Level 9 (74,955 points)

    purpleaster wrote:

     

    Apple needs to fix this issue -- I do believe it's under their control (since other providers of the same content do provide multiple means of access).

     

    I can't imagine anyone here disagreeing with you about that.  But for Apple to hear it you should use their feedback channels:

     

    http://www.apple.com/feedback/

  • purpleaster Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Ok, I left feedback. But, I'm now wondering about why there's no option to leave feedback on the iBooks application. Makes me wonder if they've forgotten about it.

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