7 Replies Latest reply: May 16, 2010 9:04 AM by SHIVERINGGOAT
SHIVERINGGOAT Level 1 Level 1 (20 points)
Hello
I am trying to get a multiple page .pdf that I created and cropped in Preview onto my iPad.
I understand the process, however when I finally view the file on the iPad, it has the original scans from the .pdf and not the ones I carefully cropped to make neater.

How can I save a .pdf to permanently reflect the cropping I made?

Many Thanks

iMac 24" MacBook 2.4ghz Macbook 2.1ghz iPhone 3G Apple TV 160GB iPod 160GB, Mac OS X (10.5.7)
  • Jerrold Green1 Level 7 Level 7 (29,855 points)
    SG,

    This is really a Mac OS topic, not a Pages one. What you are describing works fine here, but I'm not trying to move anything to an iPad, and I'm not running 10.5. Make sure your OS is updated. Save, Close and ReOpen your doc and check it before transfer.

    Jerry
  • Level 8 Level 8 (41,780 points)
    In the Preview Help (page about Crop) you will may read :

    +Rognage de documents PDF+
    +Il est possible de rogner une page d'un document PDF afin de supprimer des portions inutiles. Vous pouvez rogner uniquement la page affichée ou toutes les pages du document.+

    +*Le rognage de document n'affecte pas son contenu. _Vous pouvez visualiser à nouveau le document original_ en choisissant Présentation > Afficher PDF > Zone de données*+.

    which an automatic translator translate as :

    +Crop PDF document+
    +It is possible to crop a page of a document PDF to remove useless portions. You can crop only the displayed page or all the pages of the document.+

    +*Cropping document does not affect its contents. _You can display again the original document_ by choosing View > Show PDF > Zone of data.*+

    Given that, it's clear that the cropped PDF just embed the infos decribing the size and the location of the cropping shape.

    It appears that the app displaying these PDFs on the ipad is unaware of this feature.

    It would be a good idea to post a feedback to Apple.

    I don't know if they have a link dedicated to the ipad or if the one used for mac applications is valid.

    Given the current behaviour, it would be useful to use a tool able to apply a 'destructive' crop.

    You may start testing *_TransformPDFtoImages Service - 1.0_* (free)
    http://sourceforge.net/projects/transformpdftoi/

    You may also try, Proview (not free)
    http://www.coherentpdf.com/proview-features.html

    Yvan KOENIG (VALLAURIS, France) vendredi 14 mai 2010 17:14:05
  • Peggy Level 8 Level 8 (38,490 points)
    The only way I've been able to do it is to select the area I wish to crop, copy it & then create a new PDF in File > New from Clipboard. Unfortunately, I've only been able to do it one page at a time.

  • Level 8 Level 8 (41,780 points)
    SHIVERINGGOAT wrote:
    Hello
    I am trying to get a multiple page .pdf that I created and cropped in Preview onto my iPad.
    I understand the process, however when I finally view the file on the iPad, it has the original scans from the .pdf and not the ones I carefully cropped to make neater.

    How can I save a .pdf to permanently reflect the cropping I made?


    Why not crop the scans one by one with one of the named tools then build the PDF with a tool allowing us to merge individual pages in a single one ?
    As far as I know, you will get a pdf with a custom page size defined by the smaller rectangle able to enclose your pages.
    It's the best result which you may get if you must use a single PDF file.

    If your original pages aren't PDfs, you may crop them in Preview and save them as TIFF files.
    Then, Insert them ;in a Pages document with a custom page format.
    Define the headers, footers, margin to zero
    Then print the doc in a PDF or export it in a PDF.

    With this scheme, you will be able to put the picture exactly where you want in each page.
    You will also be able to put backgrounds, captions, etc

    Yvan KOENIG (VALLAURIS, France) samedi 15 mai 2010 16:25:13
  • PeterBreis0807 Level 7 Level 7 (32,465 points)
    Hi SHIVERINGGOAT

    Resave the cropped images in another format such as tiff, or jpeg, the crop will stick. They can be reassembled into a new .pdf in Preview by opening and dragging the thumbnails into an existing .pdf.

    *Acrobat Pro* can assemble a group of images into a single pdf in one go.

    If you wish to retain the cropped image in a pdf, which as Yvan says is masked and not really cropped, check in Preview: +Menu > View > PDF Display > Crop Box+

    Apple has (again) got a bad handle on the User Interface with this one.

    Peter
  • SHIVERINGGOAT Level 1 Level 1 (20 points)
    Thanks for the advice, so unless I want to buy Acrobat Pro, I export the cropped .pdf in Preview as a TIFF and then create a new pdf, drag the TIFFs in and I will have achieved the crop permanently?

    Thanks again.
  • PeterBreis0807 Level 7 Level 7 (32,465 points)
    The cropped and resaved tiff is actually cropped.

    A pdf has effectively a mask at the smaller size applied, the file does not change size.

    Peter