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  • V-l-a-d-i-m-i-r Level 1 (10 points)

    @FrederiQ: Thank you, I will actually put the beta here when ready. Most probably, by September. But the news are not all good - so far I think only the Haswell models will get this function with 100% probability. The new trackpad of the Haswell MBA 100% allows Pinch-to-Zoom operation, but I still fail to enable it properly with any of the previous models. Too bad, I know.

  • FrederiQ Level 1 (5 points)

    Now all of us got at least one reason to upgrade to Haswell rMBP when it arrives

  • japawlik Level 1 (0 points)

    Hello Vladimir,


    your trackpad++ is great! It saves so many lives:) I have two questions:

    1. When I use 3-Finger Dragging I can drag anything with 3 fingers but when I release 3 fingers I can drag the object with one finger only. Is it made on purpose? In OS X it's only possible to drag objects with 3 fingers


    2. The option "When Typing, Ignore All" tends to switch into "Trackpad Input" even if I have "Left Click Actions" set. On my previous MBA 2010 it was switching off all the time. I'm on Haswell now.


    Best Regards,


  • V-l-a-d-i-m-i-r Level 1 (10 points)

    @japawlik: Thank you. Here are the answers:

    1. I think you are really, very fast with the way you perform this Trackpad++ gesture. I mean, you drag with 3 fingers, then you really immediately start moving one finger. I think this is the case. I recommend to play with the 'Immediately release...' setting of the Trackpad++ Control Module, maybe of conjunction with dragging speed enhancer, which is again available in the Trackpad++ Control Module.

    2. Never heard about such behavior, and I cannot reproduce it. Very strange! Does anyone else experience this?

  • japawlik Level 1 (0 points)

    Hey Vladimir,


    I have prepared a short video to show you what I am talking about. Here it is


    I can drag an object with 3 fingers, release all 3, and then continue to drag with 1 finger.




  • esc0ba Level 1 (0 points)

    When will apple finally support us with such a driver... this makes me sad!

  • V-l-a-d-i-m-i-r Level 1 (10 points)

    @japawlik: Thank you for posting the video. To not let a single finger to catch this Trackpad++ gesture, please check the "Immediately Release 3-Finger Dragging State" option of the Trackpad++ Control Module.


    @esc0ba: Apple will never make the great Boot Camp driver, neither for internal trackpad, nor for the wireless one. Because by letting people use Windows OS without issues, they could experience the drop of sales in the App Store. And I have heard that App Store generates ~20% of their yearly revenue... So, this is it.

    Trackpad++ evolves continuously, and sooner or later will become the 100% equal replacement of the OS X driver. I think right now we have ~75% of the OS X functionality in Boot Camp with Trackpad++. In my very humble opinion, this is not that bad

  • jrf65 Level 1 (0 points)

    Hi Vladimir,


    I have a Mid 2012 MacBook Pro (w/o retina) using Win7 x64.  I can't seem to get all of the features of trackpad++ to work.  Two finger scroll and three finger drag work, but four finger left right do nothing.  Four finger up down works fine. 


    Do you have any idea how to fix this?  I've tried reinstalling but it doesn't help.

  • thephatp Level 1 (0 points)

    This may have been covered already, but I couldn't find any mention.


    Any possibility that Trackpad++ works for Windows 7 on a PC (i.e., not running Bootcamp on a Mac)?


    I have a Mac Mini that I use the wireless keyboard and magic trackpad, and I'm tired of having two keyboards and an extra mouse. I'd really like to use it on my PC.

  • AbrahamS_NY Level 1 (0 points)


    Iv'e actually downloaded your drivers for my rMBP 13", but unfortunately... Scrolling (which is the most importent feature here... at least for me...) is buggy! the scrolling needs alot of work to make it smooth as we have on OS X, even BootCamp's scrolling driver is working better for me... (altough not invert scrolling yet). Can't wait...



    Thanks so much



  • V-l-a-d-i-m-i-r Level 1 (10 points)

    @thephatp: Trackpad++ driver is made only for the built-in trackpad device of the Boot Camp-enabled Macbook Retina / Pro / Air.


    @AbrahamS_NY: Thanks. Highly appreciate your feedback. By the way, by disabling accelerated scrolling in the Trackpad++ Control Module you will get the Boot Camp-like scrolling, just with an option to (not) invert. However, the Trackpad++ native accelerated scrolling shall work fine. As I can see, of the 729 responses in this thread only 3 are about scrolling and 726 about other things - this is a good indicator of the scrolling health. How should it work: I designed the Trackpad++ scrolling to be effectively up to 4 times slower than Boot Camp's driver scrolling when moving the fingers slowly, and to dynamically change the speed when moving faster, so that when needed you can scroll many times faster than with the Boot Camp's driver. I don't know, maybe something went wrong for you specifically. Or maybe you have too high demand - please realize that in Windows the scrolling smoothness cannot be the same as in OS X. By the way, even in OS X, other browsers and 3rd party apps often do not provide the same ultra-smooth experience as Safari. So, the question isn't just about the trackpad driver settings, but about how each specific application handles the scrolling events it receives from the driver. To summarize: the driver isn't responsible for everything - which is especially true in Windows OS.

  • AbrahamS_NY Level 1 (0 points)

    Hi its me again.

    Thanks for your reply

    I know that i can't expect same scrolling in Windows as its in OS X, but i think Trackpad ++ is much more buggy even than the Boot Camp scrolling.

    May i ask for an option to have same scrolling as in BootCamp, Just adding invert scrolling mode?

    And how about inertial scrolling? this Will add much to my BootCamp experience


    Thanks so much


  • AbrahamS_NY Level 1 (0 points)

    V-l-a-d-i-m-i-r wrote:



    @AbrahamS_NY: Thanks. Highly appreciate your feedback. By the way, by disabling accelerated scrolling in the Trackpad++ Control Module you will get the Boot Camp-like scrolling, just with an option to (not) invert.



    It's already disabled... still bad experience...


    However, the Trackpad++ native accelerated scrolling shall work fine. As I can see, of the 729 responses in this thread only 3 are about scrolling and 726 about other things - this is a good indicator of the scrolling health.

    Could be... but from other hand, you may not hear any feedback from those having problems, simply because since scrolling is the first thing to try, so the users who are about scrolling will immediately remove your drivers ... and will not even give any feedback!

  • V-l-a-d-i-m-i-r Level 1 (10 points)

    @AbrahamS_NY: Neither I am stating the software is perfect already, nor I am forcing anyone to use it. However I do have some arguments regarding the scrolling.


    First of all, we just got the prove that something is wrong with your Windows installation or setup. Look, you say you still have bad behavior when accelerated scrolling is disabled. But actually when it is disabled, Trackpad++ just passes through the Boot Camp driver scrolling commands, i.e. system receives them completely unaltered (if not inverted) and only the direction is changed (if inverted). By the way, this is made possible because Trackpad++ does not destroy the Boot Camp drivers stack, but instead is seamlessly integrated into it. So, my driver can partially or completely disable the Boot Camp-native trackpad driver, plus add (virtually any) new features. That's one of the reasons why it is named Trackpad Plus Plus. So, the scrolling behavior cannot be different from Boot Camp if the accelerated scrolling checkbox is unchecked. Some of the possible reasons for wrong behavior: - maybe you use the mouse enhancement software, e.g. WizMouse or its siblings; - you use some external mouse which installed some conflicting smooth scrolling plugin, etc.; - finally, at least on of your drivers has very high DPC latency which leads to skipped packets in other drivers.


    Regarding the feedback, this forum is actually 1/10 of the total feedback I receive, and again, I can remember something like literally 1 email about scrolling during the 2013. This fact, together with the fact that (subjectively for me) the accelerated scrolling works very well both with my old Mid-2009 MBP and Mid-2013 MBA lets me believe that I had coded the scrolling function properly.


    Thanks again for your feedback. And yes, the next step will definitely be the inertial scrolling.

  • thwap Level 1 (0 points)

    I just want to add (as a general point, mind you) that I've been having some dissatisfactions with scrolling with trackpad++, where it just can't be in that 'sweet spot', between being too 'logarhythmic' (say I'm scrolling up and down on the windows volume mixer and your first scrool doesn't do it enough, so you di it a bit more and this time it goes WAY too high (a sudden scrolling 'lurch') and you KILL your ears if something's playing while you're doing it!! grr...), or on the other hand, the other way, where it's just not accelerated enough. HOWEVER, it *seemed* to improve with the most recent update (some weeks ago), so it does seem better now. but not perfect.



    However I have noticed Vladimir's explanations of 'scrolling code implementation' in certain windows apps being out of his hands, so that may be the end of that matter :/.



    But Vladimir,  just wanted to chime in and say, I ALSO have been having some really frustrating scrolling issues (of my own). but again, that some improvements did seem to come with the latest revision.



    Would this be correct - you worked on scrolling a bit for the latest version? (upon updating, I didn't change any settingg affecting scrolling - AFAIK - and also to note, i've been using the 2.3d configuration so far [though i like that there's four-finger middle click, I'll eventually migrate to the new one now that you can get best of both worlds :D..)



    I have another question vladimir: I've noticed, on Adobe photoshop, horizontal scrolling never works with trackpad++. (both on my old 2010 MBA and my 2012 retina MBP). Other PCs work fine, I have this old Windows 7 Dell with same OS and everything, scrolling fine there.



    So is the problem photoshop not giving enough 'compatibility' for interesting scrolling drivers like yours, or maybe you could look into that and somehow try to get it working from trackpad++'s end? Photoshop is one of the most common applications that techies know, GIFs and memes and all :).



    thanks and keep doing the awesome work!

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