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Jan 6, 2011 2:12 AMby macs4bg,kaluzu wrote:
*if this turns out to be true, this is really really really baaaaddd...*
I'll say. I was spooked before, but upon seeing BackPacker57's specific pinpointing of "contacts info being harvested"... Whoa. I hope he elaborates soon because I do so love my iphone, always wanted a PDA-type device to keep all info in one handy spot & throw away paper notes & the beat up old hardcopy Address Book, lol.
Not only that, but with internet & email ability, I quit using a computer altogether when iPhone entered in. So I am totally "attached" to it, heart-wise & efficiency-wise. I rack up 3.2 to 4 gig per month on the unlimited plan. I never use it as a phone for talking, but I use it for hours on end as a mini-computer & internet machine.
& FWIW, my phone is not & never has been JB. -
Jan 6, 2011 6:49 AMby kaluzu,@ BackPacker57
in the post you had deleted, none of those suits mention about contacts being read and sent over, or harvested by rogue programs. those only mention use of location, phone id, and such, without asking user's permission.
yet, that would not take much for one to just send ALL your phone contacts over, would it?
just saw an article, where in China, on some web site, HACKED iTunes user ids are sold, yes, you heard that right, sold to the highest bidder. which in turn uses these to buy whatever his heart wishes. what kind or world we live in ?!?!? -
Jan 6, 2011 7:30 AMby BulaRae,Guys, with all due respect, you have gone off-topic of the subject of this thread and if you keep going, I guarantee you they will lock the thread. All the data harvesting stuff may be indirectly related but what we really want to get to the bottom of is the BILLING of the unknown data and the carriers not backing up their claims of usage and telling us what is used, how, when and where. -
Jan 6, 2011 7:45 AMby AnthonyNC,You are probably right. Its more productive and its definitely time to take this discussion "elsewhere" if we want results. Somewhere where people will act on it and not just discuss it. You all know what we're talking about...
As for me, I have:
+- turned off Location Services+
+- turned off Notifications across the board.+
+- went to OO.APPLE.COM to do the opt-out.+
+- deleted all cookies and will not accept cookies.+
+- disabled javascript.+
+- removed all of my contacts.+
+- turned off push on my email account.+
+- deleted all "databases" from Safari settings.+
+- deleted all backups from iTunes.+
+- chose to "Reset Warnings" in iTunes and then performed a Sync and declined to send any information to Apple and checked "dont ask me again".+
and probably a few other things. I did all those 2 days ago and lo and behold, no more nightly uploads. At least not for the past 2 days 01.04 and 01.05 I did manually check email yesterday between 5pm and 6pm and all I see on my account is SENT data between 5p and 6p but no received data. Interesting. -
Jan 6, 2011 8:50 AMby lightsp33d,macs4bg wrote:
kaluzu wrote:
@ moderators
you do know that whomever is subscribed to the topic still get the message as an email...even if after it gets removed....
Shhhhhhhush! Don't spill the beans! I want to keep receiving ALL posts by email.
You will. If they started preventing posts made by subscribers/members in good standing making it to your mailbox, depending on the posts' contents, then this is called censoring and it will violate the freedom of speech, press, religion and petition.
However, they are free to remove posts (content) that appear on their website, since they own it. They are also free to repeal membership and the ability to post to these boards, according to the membership rules and regulations. -
Jan 6, 2011 8:58 AMby Lawrence Finch,lightsp33d wrote:
You will. If they started preventing posts made by subscribers/members in good standing making it to your mailbox, depending on the posts' contents, then this is called censoring and it will violate the freedom of speech, press, religion and petition.
You have a very poor understanding of the constitution. Have you read the First Amendment recently? It says:
+Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.+
The operative work is "CONGRESS". It says nothing about APPLE restricting speech, press, religion or assembly. -
Jan 6, 2011 9:00 AMby lightsp33d,kaluzu wrote:
macs4bg wrote:
BackPacker57 wrote:
...*your "contacts info" is also being harvested.*
So THAT's how 3 of my credit cards' numbers were stolen = from my Banks entries in iphone Contacts! I SUSPECTED!!! After the 3rd theft in 2 months (Sept.-Nov.2010), I had deleted all Banks from iphone Contacts, no more card number thefts since.
(& Yes, maybe I was a ditz for adding the card #'s in iphone Contacts in the first place, along with Banks' addys, phones, websites, etc., but I thought it was safe since phone STAYS HOME & NOBODY has ever touched it but me, & I thought it was as "safe" as keeping personal info on a Mac. Ten years on the internet & never one such problem until I began using iphone EXCLUSIVELY to shop/pay bills, etc.)
Time to delete ALL CONTACTS then, not just Banks, but friends, family, etc.!
if this turns out to be true, this is really really really baaaaddd...
If this turns out to be true, it's implications, both logistically and monetary would be staggering.
The reason is, that, iOS provides a set of APIs/ABIs that third party apps use to achieve their purpose. Those could be from drawing on the screen, to receiving user input, taking a picture, playing a sound or music, etc. Those APIs/ABIs also include taking your location, connecting to internet, reading your contacts from the address book, etc.
iOS, can 1) implement an underlying functional wrapper to those APIs/ABIs that provide such and such functionality to ask the user if he/she would allow the process (app) to use this functionality. The functionality could be from accessing the internet to using your GPS location, reading your UDID, to reading your address book. And 2) use a script to parse submitted app code, to find apps that use forbidden and internal APIs which they are not allowed to use, and as thus reject those apps.
Whether Apple will implement this in their iOS and their apps approval process is yet to be seen. -
Jan 6, 2011 9:09 AMby lightsp33d,Lawrence Finch wrote:
lightsp33d wrote:
You will. If they started preventing posts made by subscribers/members in good standing making it to your mailbox, depending on the posts' contents, then this is called censoring and it will violate the freedom of speech, press, religion and petition.
You have a very poor understanding of the constitution. Have you read the First Amendment recently? It says:
+Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.+
The operative work is "CONGRESS". It says nothing about APPLE restricting speech, press, religion or assembly.
If Apple or anyone else did that, wouldn't they get in trouble. So according to your interpretation, anyone else other than congress can violate the 1st Ammendment or its effects thereof. -
Jan 6, 2011 10:08 AMby Lawrence Finch,lightsp33d wrote:
If Apple or anyone else did that, wouldn't they get in trouble. So according to your interpretation, anyone else other than congress can violate the 1st Ammendment or its effects thereof.
Apple already does it when they hide posts. And they don't get in trouble. Yes, anyone other than Congress (and by extension, agents of it such as federal agencies, and by a ruling of the Supreme Court, any state or local government agency) can "violate" the First Amendment because it doesn't apply to individuals or businesses. There are laws that can be applied to businesses, such as anti-discrimination laws, but that is not the constitution. You cannot go stand on Apple's lawn and petition them; if you do they can have you arrested for trespass. You CAN stand on the steps of the Capitol Building and protest, because that IS speech protected by the constitution.
