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Jul 28, 2010 6:58 PMby kaluzu,I believe we have the answer.
Read here.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100728/apon_hi_te/us_tec_techbit_appsprivacy -
Jul 28, 2010 7:07 PMby adala,This still does not explain why the data transmission happens around 2-3am early in the morning and via cell tower network (edge/3g) as suppose to Wifi.... I wish someone develops a packet sniffing app to see what exactly is being sent but I'm sure Apple won't approve that! -
Jul 28, 2010 7:25 PMby Cory Bauer,How many hours does the iPhone 4 have to sit idle before it goes into "sleep" mode and disconnects from wi-fi? There could be more mysterious data transfers occurring then we realize because we can't see them on wi-fi. Someone with the knowhow to view data transmissions by device on their home wi-fi network should disable cellular data on their iPhone so it must use wi-fi, and see if 1.) the data transfers still occur and 2.) if there are more than just the 1-3AM transfers. -
Jul 28, 2010 7:38 PMby kaluzu,adala wrote:
This still does not explain why the data transmission happens around 2-3am early in the morning and via cell tower network (edge/3g) as suppose to Wifi.... I wish someone develops a packet sniffing app to see what exactly is being sent but I'm sure Apple won't approve that!
At least somebody un biased is looking into this and guy have the tools and knowldege -
Jul 28, 2010 8:12 PMby toadarama,Jeez, it makes me wonder if there's a new wave of cell cloning for data use going on out there... If "my phone" used data when it seems highly unlikely, then could it be that someone else is using their device cloned as mine or something... I know, too paranoid... still....... -
Jul 28, 2010 8:40 PMby Sugarrayleonard,I have the same issue. I have the iPhone 4 and every night between 1 and 2 AM I have data transmission on my bill. Anywhere between 20k and 20mb. I also have regular hours data on my bill when I know I was using 3g and some apps so I don't think that it is billing for the entire day just at night. Over 90% of my monthly data usage is from this. I have called/emailed ATT 3 times and they don't know and called Apple and they don't know. Maybe a virus with some of the apps? -
Jul 29, 2010 8:56 AMby chrisageorge,I'm definitely see the same thing.
I'm not even up at that time of night 98% of the time. Yet, somehow, even with wireless on in my own home, I'm getting 500KB to several MBs of data being sent over the wireless network?
That doesn't even make sense. DEFINITELY an issue. -
Jul 29, 2010 8:58 AMby Yeti575,Every day 12:30ish it sends back to the mother ship...
DATE TIME TO/FROM TYPE DIRECTION MSG/KB/MIN
6-Jul 12:36 AM phone Internet/MEdia Net Sent 28183KB
7-Jul 12:36 AM phone Internet/MEdia Net Sent 39923KB
8-Jul 12:45 AM phone Internet/MEdia Net Sent 2247KB
9-Jul 12:21 AM phone Internet/MEdia Net Sent 1012KB
10-Jul 12:14 AM phone Internet/MEdia Net Sent 6722KB
11-Jul 12:29 AM phone Internet/MEdia Net Sent 10945KB
12-Jul 12:53 AM phone Internet/MEdia Net Sent 905KB
13-Jul 12:53 AM phone Internet/MEdia Net Sent 99KB
14-Jul 12:01 AM phone Internet/MEdia Net Sent 40785KB
15-Jul 12:39 AM phone Internet/MEdia Net Sent 56017KB
16-Jul 12:47 AM phone Internet/MEdia Net Sent 12500KB
17-Jul 12:19 AM phone Internet/MEdia Net Sent 112KB
18-Jul 12:50 AM phone Internet/MEdia Net Sent 12388KB
20-Jul 12:28 AM phone Internet/MEdia Net Sent 45994KB
21-Jul 12:17 AM phone Internet/MEdia Net Sent 4656KB
22-Jul 12:02 AM phone Internet/MEdia Net Sent 115299KB
23-Jul 12:37 AM phone Internet/MEdia Net Sent 28719KB
24-Jul 12:30 AM phone Internet/MEdia Net Sent 10186KB
25-Jul 12:30 AM phone Internet/MEdia Net Sent 12291KB
26-Jul 12:30 AM phone Internet/MEdia Net Sent 66136KB
27-Jul 12:44 AM phone Internet/MEdia Net Sent 2570KB -
Jul 29, 2010 9:03 AMby R_Brackin,I've never felt so lucky.
I don't have 3G, and our Edge only works on rare occasions with our iPhone 4's.
Here are my early morning unattended usage stats:
We have identical 32GB iPhone 4's but we tend to run different apps.
Most usage is on our wifi.
My Phone:
DATE TIME TO/FROM TYPE DIRECTION MSG/KB/MIN
07/28 02:02 AM phone Internet/MEdia Net Sent 46KB
07/27 01:46 AM phone Internet/MEdia Net Sent 23KB
07/27 12:46 AM phone Internet/MEdia Net Sent 50KB
07/26 01:37 AM phone Internet/MEdia Net Sent 1384KB
07/25 04:13 AM phone Internet/MEdia Net Sent 112KB
07/25 01:03 AM phone Internet/MEdia Net Sent 1KB
07/24 01:34 AM phone Internet/MEdia Net Sent 2KB
07/23 01:26 AM phone Internet/MEdia Net Sent 25KB
07/22 01:27 AM phone Internet/MEdia Net Sent 4KB
07/20 01:52 AM phone Internet/MEdia Net Sent 32KB
07/19 01:08 AM phone Internet/MEdia Net Sent 439KB
07/18 01:08 AM phone Internet/MEdia Net Sent 4605KB
07/17 01:12 AM phone Internet/MEdia Net Sent 3297KB
07/16 01:46 AM phone Internet/MEdia Net Sent 33KB
My wife's phone
DATE TIME TO/FROM TYPE DIRECTION MSG/KB/MIN
07/28 12:29 AM phone Internet/MEdia Net Sent 1725KB
07/27 01:46 AM phone Internet/MEdia Net Sent 280KB
07/27 12:46 AM phone Internet/MEdia Net Sent 34KB
07/26 07:41 AM phone Internet/MEdia Net Sent 564KB
07/25 03:59 AM phone Internet/MEdia Net Sent 156KB
07/24 06:27 AM phone Internet/MEdia Net Sent 320KB
07/24 01:01 AM phone Internet/MEdia Net Sent 1KB
07/23 02:12 AM phone Internet/MEdia Net Sent 47KB
07/22 12:59 AM phone Internet/MEdia Net Sent 13KB
07/21 04:16 AM phone Internet/MEdia Net Sent 13KB
07/20 05:53 AM phone Internet/MEdia Net Sent 178KB
07/20 01:24 AM phone Internet/MEdia Net Sent 6KB
07/19 01:24 AM phone Internet/MEdia Net Sent 689KB
07/18 01:24 AM phone Internet/MEdia Net Sent 346KB
07/17 01:08 AM phone Internet/MEdia Net Sent 45KB
07/16 01:08 AM phone Internet/MEdia Net Sent 91KB -
Jul 29, 2010 9:06 AMby Lawrence Finch,chrisageorge wrote:
I'm definitely see the same thing.
I'm not even up at that time of night 98% of the time. Yet, somehow, even with wireless on in my own home, I'm getting 500KB to several MBs of data being sent over the wireless network?
Wireless on at home is irrelevant. When the phone is on Standby WiFi is off to preserve battery life, so all data must go over 3G.
The consensus in the thread above, if you read it, is that the nightly data report is a summary of data transfers over the previous 24 hours, not data actually sent at that time. In support of this is the observation from people who have had the phone a long time is that initially EVERY data exchange was listed on the AT&T bill, which could result in bills of 100 pages. AT&T updated their billing system to aggregate usage in a few line items to solve this problem.
That doesn't even make sense. DEFINITELY an issue.
The real issue is that the reported total on the bill does not match usage as tracked by the phone. -
Jul 29, 2010 9:25 AMby BulaRae,Based on my several hours conversations with supervisors about this now, I have concluded that the only way we are going to get this issue looked at by AT&T is if everyone calls them and reports it. They are still very much in the "it's not us" phase and blaming the phone or the user. Obviously something is up.
In my case because I was roaming internationally, they are trying to stick me for almost $3000 in data overage charges and assure you, that is not going to happen!!
I was lectured by the Supervisor that it had to be my usage of an app that I have been using for 4 months while traveling, despite the fact that these mysterious and massive data amounts suddenly appear only on July 16 and 17 and are for hundreds of megabytes of data, while my phone only showed 27MB.
And I assure you, I was not using my phone for anything new, unusual nor can I conceive of what could possibly amount to that kind of data.
Interestingly they claim "privacy" and won't tell me exactly where that usage comes from either. Do I have to file a legal claim and subpoena that information? This whole situation is just so wrong.
Please, everyone call it in and make them document it so we can get them to address this issue.
Oh, and I was also told by AT&T customer service (before the Supervisor) that talking to Apple about it doesn't change or have anything to do with the data billing and they won't pay attention to anything Apple says about it because they look at is cut and dried "you used it, it's your phone, therefore you pay".
