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  • Mike Boreham Level 4 Level 4 (2,095 points)
    I am close to upgrading to a XT, and have read this whole thread carefully.

    My conclusion is that with SD24 firmware there are no reports of stuttering or pause or poor video playback which were common earlier in the thread

    Anyone disagree with this conclusion?

    Thanks
  • gavjones Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    It certainly seems that way.

    I installed the Seagate XT in my MBP 13" and before I did any clone and restore to it I upgraded the firmware.

    So far so good, I havent had any further issues, its really quick and I am not regretting the purchase.

    The only issue I had at the beginning was that it too over 60 seconds to boot but a simple reset of the PRAM sorted that out.
  • iWeasel Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I have certainly had no performance, beachballing or stability issues with this drive under the SD24 firmware - I haven't actually tried the drive under previous versions as I upgraded it immediately.

    As I hinted at above, I would recommend the drive based on solely on its performance but with serious reservations about the huge negative impact on battery life, the quality of the firmware and even Seagate's general QA when considering the number of unhappy-campers on the Seagate forums for this drive.
  • Mike Boreham Level 4 Level 4 (2,095 points)
    Thanks.

    I have never previously researched a prospective purchase where the results represents such extremes.

    Some people very enthusiastic with no problems, many with tales of woe even with (on the Seagate forums) SD24 firmware.

    Even though I am not usually risk-averse, I am inclined to pass on this one, and wait for more hybrids to emerge or the price of SSDs to drop a bit more.

    Part of the reason is that, although I have done it a few times, changing the HD on my aluminium MBP is not a five minute job, like the unibodies.
  • slowth84 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    one day i'm booting up in 22sec, the next i'm back up to 40s.. what's that about? man was gleaming when it booted up so fast earlier...
  • Delta5 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    slowth84 wrote:
    one day i'm booting up in 22sec, the next i'm back up to 40s.. what's that about? man was gleaming when it booted up so fast earlier...


    I've been meaning to ask... Why do you guys reboot your Macs so often? Bootcamp? Not being a jerk, just curious if I'm missing something. I go weeks, sometimes months, between reboots on my Macbook Pro. Day-to-day, I just let it sleep and enjoy the instant-on of simply lifting the lid.

    And to add to the discussion... I updated my XT from SD23 to SD24 a couple of days ago using the ISO-Boot method (that required a reboot - ha!). No problems at all with the update. After a couple of months, I still wasn't having any problems with the SD23, but decided to update to SD24 anyway (I know, I know, don't fix it if it ain't broken).

    Performance is as it was before. Smooth & quiet, just like it's supposed to be. No beachballs. No hiccups. Just great. If anything, battery life may be a little better now. With the 9600GT graphics, with the OEM 5400 HD, I'd get about 4 hours of battery, at best. It decreased to about 3 when I updated to that WD Black 7200. The XT with SD23 was around 3:15-3:30. With SD24, it's reporting back up to 3:45.

    Two months in, I'm still very happy I upgraded to this drive. And that's from my fast WD Black drive. Can't imagine running on the OEM 5400 again...

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  • slowth84 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    ha i usually just sleep it as well.. but well just nice to know how fast it boots up =) haha
  • HMacy Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I'm also looking into replacing the hard drive on my Macbook - 2,1 late 2007. 80 GB Intel ICH7-M AHCI with a speed of 1.5 gb - am I limited in selecting a new hard drive based on this? I read somewhere that I could use a faster one (3.0gbps) but would have to use a 'jumper' or there are problems using it internally? I found a nice lenovo on Newegg (Lenovo ThinkPad FDE Series 43N3410 250GB 7200 RPM 2.5" SATA 1.5Gb/s Internal Notebook Hard Drive) but know so little about this I'm not sure if this is a good option for me or not? Everyone seems to be recommending the Seagate - I've also heard some very bad things about them... There are just so very few SATAs out there with the slower speed... help!
  • jayellpi Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I just upgraded my 15" (mid 2009) macbook pro yesterday with the momentus XT 500 gig drive.
    I originally had a 320 gig 5400 rpm Hitachi drive which was dead silent all the time. Even in the qietest of rooms it made no noise at all. I changed it because I am running out of room with all the photoshop files and other stuff on the drive. Initially, I was impressed with the speed of the momentus XT. Seemed to be blazing fast for some things. Bootup improved by only 50% though. Some apps boot almost instantly and I don't have the spinning beach ball hardly at all anymore. Before it was happening a lot. The 2 big negatives I have seen are I can hear the hard drive running all the time now. Sounds like the fans are running but it's the drive for sure. Although it's not really super loud I find it quite annoying in a quiet room. Since it was not like that before it bothers me. The other thing that is quite annoying is it spins down every minute or so and when it does it spins right back up again immediately. When it does this I hear the high pitched whine and the screen freezes for a second or 2 or 3 and then unfreezes. That is the most annoying part about it. I have tried to do the firmware update to SD24 which is supposed to fix that problem, but the drive is classed as an OEM even though I bought it at Tiger Direct. I can't do the firmware update on it to fix the spin down / spin up problem. Overall, the speed is nice, but I really can't get around the noise and constant spin down / up issue. I am considering taking it back if possible and exchanging it for another maybe Hitachi 5400 750 gig drive (just because of the noise issue). Also the other thing I noticed is that my battery took a huge hit. Went from 7 hours with the 5400 drive to 3 hours with the momentus XT. Not sure why that is but it is a problem for sure as I use it on battery quite often.
  • bossDJ Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I have had my Momentus XT for 4 days now. I have mixed feelings. I read all the drama about firmware updates and difficulty getting the update mechanism to recognize the model number etc. Surprisingly the firmware updated without a hitch using the "boot from disc" method advised on the Seagate website.

    Great, but after OS X sofware update downloaded and installed all updates available, my macbook pro would freeze on boot up and not get past the white apple logo screen. Uh oh. Luckily, I had not transferred any data or installed any apps. Just the OS straight from the disc. So I tried again, this time installing each update one at a time. Since then everything is fine.

    The good: quick boot time, quick app launch, overall zippiness not present before (which I really did expect when I upgraded to my 2010 MBP)

    The bad: VIBRATIONS! It doesn't shake the laptop or the table but you can feel it present in every inch of the laptop, even when touching the screen! It really shouldn't bother me. It's not that noticeable. But I can't stop noticing it. Battery life has taken a hit obviously. I would say it has decreased by 25% overall. An odd observation is that it is constantly recalculating to show different times.

    Conclusion: I sure like the pro's, and the vibrations aren't that bad (unless you have OCD like me), but there was something so reassuring before when I could grab my laptop and head to work or family's house and not even think about the charger. Now, I have to assess what I will be doing and for how long. Might as well use my old dell in that regard.
  • iWeasel Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I am on the verge of going back to the original 5400 Hitachi...

    I have been pleased with the performance increase, but I just don't know if I want to pay the 50% battery life reduction cost.

    I have gone from around 6 to sometimes 7 hours on a good day to just over 3 if I am lucky.

    I believe this is due to the spin up/down still not being optimised properly. Perhaps SD25 Firmware (if it happens) will attempt to address this, in the meantime I am going to kick off Super Duper and start to clone back to the Hitachi!
  • mesaboogie18 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I recently installed the 500GB Seagate Momentus XT in my late model 2010 MBP 13'' 2.4GZ and followed the instructions for burning the .iso file onto a CD. I saw the CD "SEAGATE" on my desktop and restarted the computer and held down alt/option after the chime. However the only thing thing that showed up was my hard drive and a CD called "Windows". The "SEAGATE" disk won't even show up and I can't boot from it to do the firmware update. Pretty frustrated with this whole process of having to boot from DOS. Anyone know how to help?

    -Daniel

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  • mesaboogie18 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Never mind, I tried holding down "C" at the chime and it booted up in DOS. I installed the firmware update and now I'm running SD24. My MBP boots up in 29 seconds and starts Garageband in 3 seconds now. It takes 9 seconds to starte Garageband on my 2.66GHZ iMac 24'', so quite a difference.
  • AStrannik Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
    I have just purchased Momentus XT 500GB and tried it in my macbook Pro 13". Upgraded drive firmware to SD24 and installed Snow Leopard from scratch. OS boot time from cold became around 20 seconds compared to 65 seconds using Momentus 7200.3 320 GB drive. No problems with applications or video playback.
    However, I am switching back to my old 7200.3 drive and returning Momentus XT due to a strong vibration my Mackbook Pro is experiencing with this drive. yes, performace is important but i cant stand this vibration especially after not having it at all with original drive.
  • mesaboogie18 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    My boot times have dropped to 21 seconds now but I also notice a vibration in the laptop and I can hear it spinning. The stock 5400 RPM Hitachi was dead silent and you couldn't tell the computer was on b/c it was so smooth. I can deal with it for now b/c the computer is much faster now. It's like modifying your car. It starts off quiet with decent performance, but wen you modify it, it gets faster, albeit not as quiet and smooth. Not sure how battery life is yet, but it wouldn't surprise me if it wasn't as good due to the faster spinning hard drive.
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