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Jan 23, 2012 7:13 AM in response to Diavonexby Sam Katz1,So the question is then does that refresh button help? I still think the ultimate cause is a runaway process.
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Jan 23, 2012 7:37 AM in response to Sam Katz1by Diavonex,I would say the iPad 1 is more prone to crashing because of the 256MB RAM.
Another thing to watch is the CPU Usage especially the single core A4.
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Jan 23, 2012 7:12 PM in response to Rob Bruenby PaulWith,My iPad crashes several times during most sessions. I was looking at a Wash Post article (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/former-cia-officer-charged -in-leaks/2012/01/23/gIQA3AhTLQ_story.html) tonight when it crashed four times. A couple of days ago it crashed when I was using the WSJ app, but that was the first time for that app; normally it is just Safari that crashes.
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Jan 23, 2012 8:20 PM in response to Rob Bruenby Mr. Not Too Thrilled,Apple just did their press event in NY -- about how sweet iTunes U is now. Except... you guessed it... every time I try to check out a class it CRASHES! How are students supposed to use text books on an iPad? Good luck with that!!
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Jan 24, 2012 11:39 AM in response to PaulWithby wdr99,My iPad1 crashes seem to be on just about any webpage of any size. Geez, Safari crashed when I logged in to write this reply. I get plenty of low memory warnings for mail and Safari but I can't understand why an app should crash because of low memory. I would think this would be handled with paging.
I've lived with this for seveeral months and it's awfully annoying. I should would like some acknowledgement from Apple that this is being addressed. I'm a real fan of the platform but this is burning me out and receiving no feedback from Apple is really discouraging.
Bill
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Jan 24, 2012 12:16 PM in response to Rob Bruenby Stephen Bennett1,It's sunspots! Solar maximum is frying our wifi and chips.
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Jan 24, 2012 5:39 PM in response to Rob Bruenby warrencheswick,I have an ipad2 and it regularly crashes when I'm on message boards typing a response to something. It happens on a couple of different message board sites I visit
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Jan 25, 2012 6:55 AM in response to Rob Bruenby Nancy5118,This is happening to me all the time anymore. Eight times in the past 15 minutes.
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Jan 25, 2012 6:59 AM in response to Nancy5118by Diavonex,Shut down all programs that are running in the background.
1. Double-click the Home button to see Apps in background
2. Hold the Apps down for a second or two until you see the minus sign
3. Tap the minus sign to close program
4. Reset iPad. Hold the Sleep and Home button down for about 10 second until you see the Apple logo
Suggest you perform Step 1 to 3 at the end of every day.
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Jan 25, 2012 7:32 AM in response to Diavonexby PilotSmith,I stopped buying Windows products due to having to jump through hoops to keep my system running properly. Perhaps time to start looking at what others are offering. VERY disappointing Apple has not addressed this problem yet. Now I have experienced a couple crashes using Mail (in addition to the more routine browser crashes). My iPad 2 is wearing on my patience.
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Jan 25, 2012 7:46 AM in response to PilotSmithby Stephen Bennett1,Apple may not have the answer. It's probably more of a symptom of bad App programming with App developers not paying careful enough attention to memory hogging functions and routines, especially when the App is not in use. In ways it reminds me sort of like how the Adobe flash plug-in was abused throughout the web by many (so called) developers. The more flash you got the slower your computer became, simply because developers did not know how to use the technology correctly. This bad behavior appears to be passing into the world of the Apps.
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Jan 25, 2012 7:55 AM in response to Stephen Bennett1by JimHdk,Stephen Bennett1 wrote:
Apple may not have the answer. It's probably more of a symptom of bad App programming with App developers not paying careful enough attention to memory hogging functions and routines, especially when the App is not in use. In ways it reminds me sort of like how the Adobe flash plug-in was abused throughout the web by many (so called) developers. The more flash you got the slower your computer became, simply because developers did not know how to use the technology correctly. This bad behavior appears to be passing into the world of the Apps.
It's not an App problem. With the exception of only a few Apps (media streaming Apps like Pandora) recently used Apps are NOT running and any memory they have used is available to be reused by the Operating System when memory is requested.
The crashes are likely due to incorrectly using a pointer to memory which has already been released resulting in an Illegal Address error. The problem is likely in Webkit which is used by Safari, other iPad Web browsers and some Apps.
We have to wait until Apple releases a fix for this.
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Jan 25, 2012 8:04 AM in response to JimHdkby Stephen Bennett1,That simple? This issue has been around long enough for Apple to fix.
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Jan 25, 2012 8:05 AM in response to PilotSmithby Ashooner,You'd think they might have been able to divert a little bit of that $13,000,000,000 in profit from the last few months to getting Safari working properly....
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Jan 25, 2012 8:14 AM in response to Stephen Bennett1by JimHdk,Stephen Bennett1 wrote:
That simple? This issue has been around long enough for Apple to fix.
In complex multi-threaded software, bad pointer usage is one of the most difficult problems to find and fix. The problems are not reliably reproducible since they are affected by the order in which the end-user does things as well as being dependent on what he was doing previously (the state of the software).
The bad pointer could be the result of bad logic (release then reuse) or it could be do to a random store into the data area containing the pointer thus corrupting it. There are many other scenarios as well.
It's not "simple" at all.