-
All replies
-
Helpful answers
-
Sep 17, 2012 2:03 AM in response to Toboriby K'Shanti,I WAS speaking for myself, thanks. If you look back through the comments, there are an awful lot of us who keep going back for more. Many say they'll never buy Apple again, and some even mean it. If you don't want to buy Apple, don't. But let those of us who do discuss our problems with our iDevices(Yes, I'm one of those stupid people!) in peace, so that we can maybe discover a solution, okay?
-
Sep 17, 2012 2:22 AM in response to K'Shantiby K'Shanti,Speaking of solutions, has anyone tried any of the ones listed in these articles?:
http://appletoolbox.com/2010/04/ipad-wi-fi-problems-comprehensive-list-of-fixes/
http://smallbusiness.chron.com/keep-ipad-dropping-wifi-signals-49630.html
-
Sep 17, 2012 2:23 AM in response to K'Shantiby Tobori,Relax dude. You wrote "We have become iAddicted, all of us." or something like that. That's why I said speak for yourself. I am not iAddicted and I am not stopping anyone from discussing their Apple problems. Knock yourself out.
-
Sep 17, 2012 2:27 AM in response to Toboriby K'Shanti,Chick, not dude.
Have you tried any of the stuff from the articles I listed?
-
Sep 17, 2012 2:37 AM in response to K'Shantiby Tobori,Sorry dude chick.
I've tried everything. The point is we shouldn't have to work so hard to make something work as intended. If you have to babysit your device just to get some use out of it, in my opinion it's worthless. I just bought a Samsung Galaxy Tab and it works! Hasn't crashed once and I don't have to make a checklist of things I have to do to get it to work. And it cost much less!
That's why I'm done with Apple.
Free yourself from your iAddiction! It can be done :)
-
-
-
Sep 17, 2012 3:11 AM in response to Rob Bruenby Bugfixer,Dear all, as I wrote back in this thread, the same problem is present also on my iPad 1 (2010) .
Today finally I had some time to investigate deeper, taking a look at the logs.
I want to point out that the term "crash" is not correct. from what I see from the logs, is iOS that - in low memory conditions - terminates the processes that are using too much memory.
If this is not new, forgive me, but at this point we can't do anything if an app is consuming too much memory...
But... I expect that Safari and other Apple applications DON'T have this problem. If the OS is recovering memory, I expect that it should close background applications first, not the foregound one!
I'm trying to consume less memory always closing the apps, not using too mush notification, disabling spotlight, etc... but with no significative results. Even reinstlling the OS from zero had no result.
So now I'm using just some basic apps and no more. What a pity...
-
Sep 17, 2012 7:21 AM in response to Bugfixerby Christof60,You are right, but it isn't just apps.... I have crashes constantly when I have two or more windows in safari, and they especially seem more frequent when visiting sites that in my opinion, do the most phishing for info, have tons of ads, and are photo intense. Sites like Mashable, Facebook, any News outlet page or social networking site really.
If I am simply using apps, I can have even a dozen open (except video intensive games, etc) and it never crashes.
Although I love my iPhone 4, I am really disappointed in the design of this first gen iPad. Why does it not load a page and hold that info in the cache, why does it have to load every **** time I switch from one safari tab to another?
There is no reason at all that the memory could have been optimized and the cache be increased, therefore taking the load off the ram and processor...
And to top it off, the configuration of resources got worse with the last 2 IOS updates, not better.
They need to release iOS updates optimized for each machine, not release one for their latest gizmo, and expect the older stuff to work fine on it. Just my .02 worth.
I could do with a $199 Kindle better then what I can do with this $400 iPad anymore... And o more iOS updates for it?
Apple is going to start losing a lot of "non-groupie" customers like me if they keep going the way they have been.
-
Sep 17, 2012 7:35 AM in response to K'Shantiby Christof60,Who the hel l is having problems with freaking wi fi????
Your "list" is useless, noting there for constant crash to desktop, which is WHAT this thread is really about!!
Now if you have a way to roll back to iOS 4, and keep the iPad from updating (or driving one nuts with update notifications), I'm willing to listen and also willing to wipe this POS and go back to where I was when it USED to work! Seriously, I have gone back to my clunky laptop because I am so tired of Safari crashing in the middle of me writing or posting something, or worse yet, crash in the middle of paying for an order, and I have to start from scratch.
So if anyone has ANSWERS, please post them. But I'm seriously getting tired of getting 5 notification emails, same old (and getting stoopid complaints), and no good answers, but rather "oooooh, this worked for me despite the fact it doesn't address the real problem you all are having and makes a fanboy statement that no one really cares about..."
It's really simple. Apple designed updated OS's that the older generation iPads were not designed to handle, they have failed to address it, and don't give a shiat since they have already gotten 250X what the machine cost them to make...
There was a reason I didn't buy Apple for the last 20 yrs, and although I was seduced by the IPhone 4, and really am happy with it, if my son had not given me the iPad I helped him buy (thus sentimental value), it would have either hit the wall, or eBay, by now...
-
Sep 18, 2012 7:00 AM in response to Rob Bruenby Cthehill,Now it's migrated to my wife's CrashPad2. Followed all the steps, and the Washington Post web site still goes bye-bye on Safari.
-
Sep 18, 2012 9:04 AM in response to Cthehillby Christof60,And NO word even mentioned by Apple that it was addressed in the ios6 update.... They just don't seem to care. So, since I have an iPad 1, I'm SOL, but I'll be damned if I'll drop the $$ on an iPad II, or even the III, since they are refusing to even pay attention to all the posts on this Apple forum about this CHRONIC problem (obviously an iOS 5 issue, since it affects the II as well), and address the issue. So until I read something SOON that the new iPad doesn't suffer these crashing issues, I will be upgrading to a Galaxy SIII and Android Tab, and dumping my iPhone 4 and iPad.
Had enough of this shiat... I'm done.
-
Sep 20, 2012 5:01 PM in response to Rob Bruenby Joachim Hettich,I'm an old fart ex scientist from the days when we were still debating whether the future of computing would be digital or analogue and when we wrote programmes in Assembler (effectively in Binary). I own an iPad original and have been having these issues - these are some thoughts after a bit of research.
The memory (RAM) of different models is as follows:
Original - 256 MB
iPad 2 - 512 MB
3rd Gen - 1024 MB
I can't easily find any difinitive information as to the memory requirements of each version of IOS and/or Safari BUT it would be reasonable to assume that the trend would be increasing rather than decreasing. Similarly the RAM requirements of applications and web pages will be inceasing. Hence "out of memory" issues.
I use my iPad a lot for keeping up with the news and for that I use Google news set to push news to my iPad. This will cause a crash after a while - especially if reading a very long reader reply thread. The other day the Washington Post website was guaranteed to crash Safari - today it seems OK again so they must have fixed whatever caused it. These are issues outside of Apple's control. If, like me, you bought your iPad less than 2 years ago it IS frustrating to see it become outdated so rapidly but one can hardly blame Apple for the speed of technological advance nor can Apple be expected to magically fix issues caused by web and app developers wanting to use the maximum available RAM on modern devices. At least it's only Safari (or another app) crashing and not the whole operating system - remember BSODs?
-
Sep 20, 2012 5:09 PM in response to Joachim Hettichby Joachim Hettich,ROTFLOL at the pc censorship - now Apple dictates to me how I may refer to myself - OK maybe it will accept old geezer. Goes to look up whether this is a US vs UK acceptability issue.
-
Sep 20, 2012 5:50 PM in response to Joachim Hettichby Christof60,Very, very good Joachim!
Finally someone who can eloquently post in such a polite, sensible, and if I may say, calming way. Bravo!
And I must admit, the times when my iPad crashes, I always have at least two, often 3, tas open in Safari and the specific sites are so da,mn stuffed with ads, scrolling windows, Facebook and twit-wit tags, not to mention hundreds of posts, that it surely is the major cause of the overload crashes.
But if the memory is limited (which it un-arguably is), then why can't they update the device to store more information in the hard rather than flash/ram memory? I know that would help. Heck, even keeping certain cookies to store login information, but otherwise dumping the cache each te you close the app, would surely help??
It drives me nuts that I will be posting to one site while researching for my facts on another Safari window, and when I go back to the post window, it "refreshes", thus slamming the ram with another unnecessary load, and 99% of the tie, my whole post so far, is gone- "Poof"... Example... I am about 5 minutes into this post. If I wanted to open another window, to perhaps to glean specific stats/info, when I came back to this post, 99% of the time it would be gone. I've had to go as far as having to copy my words, then when I oe back to the post, "paste" what I'd previously written. I'm about ready to dump this unit just for that reason. You defend (probably justly) windows that it is the sites themselves that are cramming so much info/data on the page that the iPad cannot, or was designed to handle.
But what about Apple's continued refusal to allow clicking the "add file/picture" button? Do you know how irritating it is to use the iPad for one if it's main design purposes, social networking and surfing, and NOT be allowed to "add" a picture or video clip to Facebook or a Forum website?
From what I've been told (friend that knows Apple from the inside), even the 3rd iPad will not allow this, and still refuses to add USB port for using key drive or external HDD... That's nuts!! I can do that on Android tabs, ven the new Kindles (according to neighbor who has one..
Thanks aain for a great post, but Apple, post-Steve Jobs, is really going downhill IMHO.
I know it took my son 3 yrs to drop my Android phone, and I DO like my iPhone, but I'm pretty close to dumping both the phone and iPad for a Galaxy SIII and Android Tablet... Truth be known, I really don't think the current ego-inflated directors of Apple don't see it, could care less, or both.