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Chris Hayden Level 1 Level 1 (105 points)
For those interested in writing ebooks for the iPad directly through the Apple iTunes contract: There is an article with a workaround workflow so that most of the formatting and inline graphics could be carried over into an .epub document.


The article describing the Pages-to-EPUB workaround workflow is in the "How to Articles" at http://ezepub.com . Other free Author and ePublisher resources are there as well.



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  • Doug Eldred Level 4 Level 4 (3,270 points)
    Another possibility, which will work even better in iOS 4 (and not just for pages), is to simply print your document to a PDF file and transfer that to the iPad. Today, you can use various approaches to installing and reading the PDF on the iPad - email, GoodReader, various PDF-specific tools, etc. - and in iOS 4 the iBooks app will handle PDF files natively.
  • Chris Hayden Level 1 Level 1 (105 points)
    Doug Eldred wrote:
    Another possibility, which will work even better in iOS 4 (and not just for pages), is to simply print your document to a PDF file and transfer that to the iPad.


    Absolutely true, If you want to give your book away or sell it yourself.

    But to my knowledge, professional authors and publishers who wish to sell their books directly through Apple's iBookStore aren't yet able to submit the .pdf format for sale. Plus, .pdf doesn't do flowable text the way that ebook formats such as .epub do, leaving the reader to zoom in and out a lot. Novels would be a tough read.
  • Barbara Brundage Level 7 Level 7 (22,075 points)
    aren't yet able to submit the .pdf format for sale


    I would point out that Steve Jobs didn't say for sure that we will be. He never said "sell PDFs in the ibookstore" (although I devoutly hope that comes to pass), only "read PDF in ibooks".
  • Chris Hayden Level 1 Level 1 (105 points)
    Barbara Brundage wrote:
    I would point out that Steve Jobs didn't say for sure that we will be. He never said "sell PDFs in the ibookstore" (although I devoutly hope that comes to pass), only "read PDF in ibooks".

    Thanks Barbara,

    In fact, I would be surprised if Apple did offer to sell .pdf books through the iBookStore anytime soon, although eventually is probably inevitable.

    +watched the keynote:+ Steve Jobs only said that the iBook.app would support the reading of .pdf formatted books, which is kind of my point. I really wish that they not only supported .pdf within iBooks, but that they might eventually port over 'Preview' for .pdf handling.

    The [EZePub|http://ezepub.com] article I mentioned only addresses the .epub format as needed by interested authors and publishers who want to distribute their books through Apple.
  • tasslehawf Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    This is so frustrating. We have three text books that are print-on-demand through Createspace. We have demand for ebooks but that means having convert A LOT of tables of data to images to make it work in the ePub format. And the PDF files (screen resolution) are under 4 mb.

    I really wish Apple would allow the sale of PDFs in it iBookstore.
  • Tom Gewecke Level 9 Level 9 (75,500 points)
    I really wish Apple would allow the sale of PDFs in it iBookstore.


    Use the feedback channels to tell them:

    http://www.apple.com/feedback/ipad.html

    iBooks 1.1 will have pdf reading capability.
  • Barbara Brundage Level 7 Level 7 (22,075 points)
    iBooks 1.1 will have pdf reading capability.



    It does right now.
  • tasslehawf Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I guess if we wanted to, we could sell them for download from another site to be read on iBooks. But it would be nice if Apple support them for sale..
  • Chris Hayden Level 1 Level 1 (105 points)
    Barbara Brundage wrote:
    iBooks 1.1 will have pdf reading capability.


    It does right now.


    Only as free books not distributed through the iBookStore. Or, has Apple added the ability to sell .pdf books?
  • Barbara Brundage Level 7 Level 7 (22,075 points)
    The question was about reading pdfs. You can certainly read them, albeit in a limited way, since ibooks 1.1 is out. I wasn't addressing selling. I also wish this were available, but reading is better than nothing.
  • Chris Hayden Level 1 Level 1 (105 points)
    Sorry Barbara, I guessed with all the:
    tasslehawf wrote:
    tables of data

    and
    tasslehawf wrote:
    I guess if we wanted to, we could sell them

    the books were educational materials that are rarely free and the point needed clarity.
  • Barbara Brundage Level 7 Level 7 (22,075 points)
    But are you saying that if you buy, say, a Take Control ebook , it won't work in ibooks? I haven't tried it myself, but I haven't heard anyone say that, only that the formatting gets shot to pieces for some pdf files that various authors/publishers have tried. Is there a restriction?

    (I would presume that if there's DRM on it, like an adobe editions ebook, it won't work, but there's plenty of sold content, including everything from my publisher, that doesn't have any.)
  • Chris Hayden Level 1 Level 1 (105 points)
    From where I sit Apple has not yet offered to sell .pdf books, they have offered to let people use the iBooks.app to read .pdf books. Time will tell, but my guess is that eventually we will see .pdf books sold through the iBookStore. It is too big of a market to pass up. The real problems with .pdf formatted books have to do with flowable text and the authors ability to optimize the file size of their .pdfs.

    Barbara, I'm not totally sure about your last question, but I do think we should stick to what Apple is doing and try to help people work within those constraints. Sure there are lots of other things going on out there, but it is really, really easy to get off the path.

    Of course, everyone should let Apple know how they are trying to use these products so that everyone can improve their workflow.

    What workflow would I suggest for tasslehawf? If it were me, I would save an iteration of my book document with a name variation indicating that it were intended to end up as an epub. I would then open the copy and scroll through until I came to a table. I would then use the keyboard shortcut "shiftcontrol+command4" to give me crosshairs to take clipboard captures of my table, then set my blinking cursor inline with the text flow and paste the clipboard image (command+V), followed by deleting the active table. I might set the image in its own paragraph and center that. Rinse and repeat for the other tables. BUT, that's me. Other people will wrestle with this conversion issue their own way. tasslehawf might already know all of this.

    Is the extra work worth getting salable books into .epub format? I think so! I have a long history with developing reading software and flowable text is key to reaching your audience on an ereading computer or device. PDF can scale, but not in the same way. Just my opinion.

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  • Barbara Brundage Level 7 Level 7 (22,075 points)
    I'm still confused. I was originally merely replying to Tom Gewecke's post saying that with the 1.1 update you could read PDF books. That is now, and that's what I said.

    I merely point out that just because you can't sell a pdf book in the bookstore, that doesn't mean you can't read one in ibooks. There are many, many publishers selling pdf books already through other outlets, and I'm not sure that the bookstore is some kind of panacea for getting the word out (it's not like the app store where you can't use it if it's not from there), so I guess I don't quite follow the idea that you HAVE to get your book into the bookstore to get sales for it. O'Reilly does okay without.

    Personally, I think that unless one is quite comfortable with XHTML and CSS, epub is really best suited for a novel at this point, or you should hire someone who knows what they're doing for production of a more complexly formatted book, if you aren't willing to dive in and learn all about divs and spans and all.

    If it were me, I would save an iteration of my book document with a name variation indicating that it were intended to end up as an epub. I would then open the copy and scroll through until I came to a table. I would then use the keyboard shortcut "shiftcontrol+command4" to give me crosshairs to take clipboard captures of my table, then set my blinking cursor inline with the text flow and paste the clipboard image (command+V), followed by deleting the active table. I might set the image in its own paragraph and center that.


    The biggest problem I see with this workflow is that it means your tables will be relegated to images and completely not searchable, which may or may not be a major issue.

    It is true that pdf doesn't scale well, but then so far I've not found anything much in the bookstore with heavy formatting that doesn't break pretty severely if the reader plays around with the font size–captions and headings moving to the next page and so on. So I guess it's six of one, half a dozen of the other at this point.
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