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  • Raging Cortez Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    tongslitdi wrote:
    I am no longer going to buy this phone

    I'm leaning heavily toward returning mine
  • gfgrimm Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    tongslitdi wrote:
    I am no longer going to buy this phone

    This must be why the first time I posted that message it was instantly deleted. How funny.
  • bdobson Level 1 Level 1 (20 points)
    I am not going to put a $30 or more case on something to which is broken. This is a major, glaring flaw and is not acceptable.
  • Driven Photography Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    This is an easy fix for Apple. The problem truly is not that bad.

    And it should not keep anyone from buying one.

    The problem is on the outside of the phone so easily retrofitted laminate/bumper etc..
    Since the antennas acts as the housing for the electronics and the mounts for the glass they can dip(in a non-conductive coating) the exterior bands or the whole machined piece during manufacturing.

    The question is what will apple do to fix the ones currently in circulation.
  • DerekKSU Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Same here. If Apple's official answer is to 'hold the phone in a different way' then I will be returning my iPhone 4 and dumping AT&T.
  • gfgrimm Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    No, no. I'd like Steve to come to my humble abode and spray on a nice non-conductive finish to the edges of my phone. Only then will I be placated.

    I don't expect to be placated.
  • Gochezj1 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    lol so true
  • Samo514 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I bought an iPhone 4. I hold it in my hand and it doesn't work due to a design flaw. Apple's little bumper thing would solve the fatal flaw. I don't want to have to cover up that pretty steel band with some hideous chunky plastic or rubber, but I must if I'm to use the phone at all. Apple needs to provide those things to iPhone 4 users for free. I love apple, but I need my phone to work, and I shouldn't have to pay any more than I already have.
  • Dan Slocum Level 2 Level 2 (285 points)
    I WORSHIP Apple, but this is an outrage and absolutely inexcusable.

    Front page of the New York Times is just the beginning. Sad day for Apple.
  • Bunky Level 1 Level 1 (140 points)
    So, does anyone here think Apple will pony up and refund the $29 for the bumper??!?! And why is it $29??!? I stood in line today for 2hrs 20min before getting into the store (watched quite a few TV shows on my iPad). A bumper was placed in my hand like it was planned or something (like the team got the 'ole pep talk before opening the store to push the bumpers). As the bumper was being placed in my hand, I asked my blue shirted buddy (cool guy at any rate) what Apple was planning on doing about this reception issue. He said he hadn't heard anything about it.... hee hee hee. C'mon now. The only reason I bought the bumper is because all of my favorite case/belt clip companies are dragging their butts on getting the cases out. Why is it so different with the iPhone 4? Cases seemed to be flowing out before launches of the other iPhones.

    I don't know what to do. I already erased my 3GS in prep for giving it to my buddy's wife. The 4 is a cool phone (bells and whistles), but reception is gonna trump having this thing if this is as big of a deal as it seems it is.
  • falconApoda Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    +"Pick it up in your left hand (as many right-handers do to leave their right hand free to operate the on-screen controls)."+


    +"Use a solid grip that maximizes stability and minimizes the chance of dropping it."+


    +"Position it so your thumb has easy access to the volume and mute controls."+

    Okay. I think I see, now. You palm the phone in your hand.

    I don't do this. I hold the phone such that the first three fingers are resting on the right side, and the end of my thumb is smack dab in the middle of the left side (centered between the volume controls and the troublesome bezel). That's a normal position for me.

    I will check this out, however.
  • ridgecritter Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
    The iPhone 4 has three antennas. These are slots, or spatial discontinuities in the metal band around the phone. It's been known for a long time that empty spaces in a conductor (aka, "slots") can radiate RF signals and receive them just the same as the more traditional metallic antenna elements.

    However - if you cover up a slot antenna with an electrical conductor and/or a lossy dielectric material, the radiated RF will be either reflected back to the transmitter (if covered by a good conductor) or absorbed by the covering material (if the material is "lossy" or absorbent in the RF sense).

    The human body is both electrically conductive (full of ionic liquids, or electrolytes) and RF-lossy (called a high loss tangent, which is part of what makes microwaves able to heat stuff). So when you put your hand over the slot antennas of your iPhone 4, you absorb outgoing transmitted RF and you block incoming RF signals.

    And this is consistent with the observation reported by many that a case helps alleviate the problem. Most cases are nonconductive and are non-lossy, or RF-transparent. So they create a small gap between the slot antenna and your hand through which outgoing and incoming RF signals can pass.

    This is pretty basic, simple stuff for RF design engineers. Anybody who designs phones for a living w/should have spotted this.
  • M.A Level 2 Level 2 (260 points)
    Is this "non-conductive" finish similar to the cereal varnish that Clark Griswold was working on in Christmas Vacation?
  • Dan Slocum Level 2 Level 2 (285 points)
    For me, a lot of the iPhone experience is no case.

    This entire issue is over the top. Apple must do something. Front page of The New York Times, in a bad way, is almost as brutal as a PR NIGHTMARE can get.
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