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Aug 11, 2010 1:26 PM in response to Xplorer77by flac7,all i read here is bla bla im a droid employee bla bla droid droid employee. Come on guys, apple is not entitle to give you updates for your phone, you buy a normal phone and you stick with what you buy, so apples try to give better performance and re-love your phone, yes many treats about slooooow phones, but also lots with no problems, stop blamming and trowing trash to steve, engenieers, pr apple this apple this, company doesnt love me buhuu. Some people just blame all to manufactures and carriers. dont buy them, dont upgrade, your conspiracy to buy new iphone doing a horrible os is just hilarious. Go to the whatever phone you want, just stop insulting people that actually wants to help. -
Aug 11, 2010 1:53 PM in response to Xplorer77by rstoppiello,flac7, if you have no issues, kindly go away.
No one here is a droid employee, we are all apple CUSTOMERS, who have had the device UNDER 2 years, and expect it to work as designed for that long. -
Aug 11, 2010 1:53 PM in response to flac7by Major Tom UK,flac7 You are missing the point. I run my own company and sometimes inevitably, things do go wrong. You can lose a customer if you handle the situation badly, but if you are seen to be quick to react and effective in your remedy you can tie the customer into you, bring with it even greater loyalty.
Apple have done them selves no credit with this upgrade, it should not have been released for the 3G in its present form. An approved upgrade is expected to bring benefits not render a perfectly good device useless. By ignoring the problem it just makes matters worse. I don't hold with the conspiracy theory of promoting 4G sales, you only have to read this thread to know that wouldn't work.
BTW if anyone is still considering sticking with the upgrade I can recommend the Lifehacker downgrade http://lifehacker.com/5572003/how-to-downgrade-your-iphone-3gs-from-ios-4-to-ios -313 . Couldn't be easier; a pre update sync before I did the installation of iOS4 saved a lot of grief on this occasion.
Without one I would probably have hung on in the hope Apple will respond and bring out an iOS4 Lite for the long suffering 3G users of this inappropriate upgrade. Come on Apple it still not too late to save something of your reputation! -
Aug 11, 2010 1:59 PM in response to Xplorer77by flac7,im to a customer, and im sorry you or more people have problems with the devices, mine is not perfect, im in this forum looking up ways to solved whenever i had an issue and ive found how to solve them, but is really annoing to talk trash of everybody, companys, carrier, genius etc etc to solve all problems. i really hope this issue gets solved to you and all many people with trouble. but this conspiracy, talk sh**t is not goin to solved it. -
Aug 11, 2010 2:04 PM in response to flac7by Wraith_Commander,Has anyone noticed whether or not iOS 4 is faster on the 3G after updating to iOS 4.0.2? -
Aug 11, 2010 2:08 PM in response to Xplorer77by flac7,Right back at you mayor tom, i know is annoying, im of the ones didnt have issue but i do get your point and some mates here. Everytime a updates or phone comes out is like the point is to look for flaws instead of help people get to know their phones. Just my point of view, and i know many would not like it. -
Aug 11, 2010 2:12 PM in response to Xplorer77by Lincoln Shlensky,The worst part about this for me is how terribly uncommunicative Apple has been throughout. It's one thing not to have a fix yet for the iOS 4 problem on iPhone 3G -- that's understandable, if the company is working on the issue. But not to let its client base know, officially, that Apple understand the problem, is seeking a solution, and expects to have it by X date is ludicrous. This is a public relations failure that Apple's clients don't deserve and shouldn't put up with. -
Aug 11, 2010 2:17 PM in response to Lincoln Shlenskyby fbara,I have a 3G and updated to iOS4.0.1, hoping it would resolve the slowness issue. It didn't. I followed all the advice about closing out Safari, turning off the indexing, etc. I kept 4.0.1 on for a week and couldn't work with the constant slowness so I used the Lifehacker article to downgrade to 3.1.3.
My question: now that 4.0.2 has been released and it includes the PDF exploit fix, how do those of us on 3.1.3 get the security hole fixed without upgrading the OS? -
Aug 11, 2010 3:06 PM in response to MacOpHby MacOpH,MacOpH wrote:
In some surreal parallel universe, if people were iPhones, we are currently witnessing the mass euthanasia of all those of us over 40 regardless of physical or mental condition. iOS4 might have well been a virus for what it has done to us - overnight we have become sick, slow, forgetful, slurred, crippled and ready for the ground to open up for us. Landfill. Carbon footprint.
Make way for the next generation.
4 million 3g owners.
We all had perfectly good, working devices.
We followed their prompt.
We downloaded their update.
It ruined our Phones.
They are responsible.
They are liable.
They are silent.
How rude. -
Aug 11, 2010 3:11 PM in response to fbaraby Lukeruls,fbara wrote:
I have a 3G and updated to iOS4.0.1, hoping it would resolve the slowness issue. It didn't. I followed all the advice about closing out Safari, turning off the indexing, etc. I kept 4.0.1 on for a week and couldn't work with the constant slowness so I used the Lifehacker article to downgrade to 3.1.3.
My question: now that 4.0.2 has been released and it includes the PDF exploit fix, how do those of us on 3.1.3 get the security hole fixed without upgrading the OS?
Personally, I'd rather keep 3.1.3 with the PDF vulnerability than upgrade to 4.x on an iPhone 3G. -
Aug 11, 2010 3:11 PM in response to MacOpHby MacOpH,Does anyone have Alan Shore's contact details since he left Crane, Poole & Schmidt?
I could do with his help on a certain matter..... -
Aug 11, 2010 3:16 PM in response to flac7by Rob A.,Flac7,
Did you type your responses to this thread with you 3G iPhone ... looks like it hehe Either that, or English is not your primary language.
Do you honestly believe NO ONE (not a single person) at Apple tested the OS4 update on a 3G phone prior to release?? If you believe that, then that is incredibly irresponsible. I work for a small software company with far fewer resources than Apple, and we test our products on many different platforms before releasing.
I'm 100% sure Apple did test OS4 on 3G phones prior to release, and stumbled into these problem just like everyone else, if they didn't then they should fire their entire Quality Assurance department. Apple made a decision to release anyway even with the problems (just like they did with the iPhone 4 antenna issue) ... did they do it with the intention to force folks to upgrade to the iPhone 4, IMHO, yes. Not a conspiracey ... it's called "business", using leverage on end consumers. It's a gamble, a big gamble -- and considering 77% of the iPhone 4 sales were from existing iPhone customers, it would appear this "business" practice worked short term. BUT, it's long term where Apple are going to feel the pain. Reputations are hard to build and in a matter of months Apple has really exposed their ugly side of business.
But don't take it personally ... it's just a phone, many have moved on to other manufacturers and many "on the fence" decided against going with Apple mobile devices. Apple make other great products. -
Aug 11, 2010 3:40 PM in response to Xplorer77by flac7,Yes rob i did type it with my 3g, yes, i speak other languages as primary (no need to be rude at it if you did understood what a meant) i guess they did test it cuz mine works fine and many others, i do get all leverage and business logica answers you got, so droid, microsoft and your company does it as you say. Like i said, sorry if it bothers you mine and other more do work fine. Now i guess you will start calling me names and make fun of how i type right? -
Aug 11, 2010 3:42 PM in response to Wraith_Commanderby n3nto,Instaled 4.0.2, after all it cant make it any worse than it is, or can it!!!
Dont think this update is all about us but rather to stop the exploit. If you thought it would have some secret update for 3G owners so as to make their phone usable again _dont hold your breath_
Still jerky and laggy as usual. -
Aug 11, 2010 3:57 PM in response to Xplorer77by Fastdude,I just returned from an appointment at the Genius Bar in the nearby Apple Store about the maddening slowdown of my G3 iPhone, due to the upgrade to iOS4. Here are the highlights
1) Apple techs are well aware of the slowdown and other problems on the G3 as a result of upgrading. The young, helpful guy I spoke with acknowledged the slowness of my iPhone. He performed a diagnostic check and said that some of the background apps performing OS functions (which we users never see) are not performing well, as some of the dynamic code they read, and maybe portions of these apps, are garbled. Of course, he can not extend his findings to all of the G3's out there that are experiencing problems, since other people have symptoms that I do not have.
2) This tech had heard a RUMOR within the Apple grapevine that a new upgrade is being considered and/or is in the works. He and other store techs have not been told anything directly, so there is no known date of its release. The techs, like us, must wait for movement from Cupertino.
3) In the meantime, his best recommendation is to perform a restore in iTunes from NEW, and NOT just a restore from the latest backup, which would only restore garbled, damaged code. After restoring to factory condition (but with iOS4 still installed), I can sync all my personal data (Address Book, Calendar, Apps, databases, etc., back to the iPhone, and I must re-set my Settings and probably any preferences I that applied to specific third-party Apps. What I will lose in this process is all text message strings and any recent phone call info that is stored on the phone.
Again, the tech could not guarantee total resolution of my slowdown, but he is convinced it will help.
4) He also said I should NOT do a Hard Reset by holding down the Home button and the Sleep/Wake button (at the top) simultaneously. This is akin to unplugging a computer while it is running, and, performed only a few times, it can potentially damage the electronics. I had thought this maneuver was similar to "zapping the PRAM" on a Mac, but he said absolutely not. I have seen this step suggested in this thread (cultofmac.com suggests this), so I want to pass on this warning.
5) On the theory that the memory demands of iOS4 are too taxing for the G3, the tech said it might help to turn off Apps that are constantly going online for info updates. So, log off in your Facebook App, Yelp, etc., and don't leave multiple windows open in Safari.
6) Do turn off your iPhone 3G whenever your can.
That's it. Rather than revert to iOS3, when I can find several hours, I might do a restore from NEW, but, for now, I am stuck, like the rest of you, waiting for Apple's official response.
Oh, and I have already added my complaint to Apple at the link below. You should, too.
http://www.apple.com/feedback/iphone.html
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