G5 Dead? Zpping PRAM, resetting NVRAM and PMU don't work...

First of all sorry, I'm new to this forum and unfamiliar with your etiquette so sorry again if this has been taken care of before.

I own a Power Mac G5 (the first model on this page: http://support.apple.com/kb/SP96 ). It's been running pretty smoothly up with the occasional hang ups, but nothing I wasn't able to take care of myself). Today, after two or three attempts to work on it, the whole system froze and I was forced to shut it down manually. Since then, I haven't been able to get into the OS. Here's what happens:

-The opening chime and fan work as usual, the first couple of times, the computer would sound as if loading, but it would not show anything but a black screen and I am forced to shut down manually, again.
-After resetting PRAM, every time I open it up, it reaches the grey screen with the Apple logo, but after a few seconds of the spinning gear, everything freezes and again, force shut down.
-Looked around all the forums, tried zapping again, tried resetting NVRAM, resetting PMU, did a fsck -fy check up tried to start in Safe mode (nada), tried to boot from disc, can't even reach it. Tried using the option key while loading to get the choices, still nothing.
-I've tried leaving it alone for extended periods of time, nothing...

I'm out of ideas and have a very bad feeling about what this all means... What could the problem be? I haven't installed anything new on the computer which I mostly use for ripping my LPs and to record some of my own music using Ableton Live.

Any hints, clues or help would be greatly appreciated.

PS: I forgot to mention that even though the screen freezes, the computer seems to still sound as if it's working or booting, but nothing else happens and every time I'm forced to quit manually.

Message was edited by: Boro76

Power Mac G5, Mac OS X (10.4.11)

Posted on Jun 24, 2010 8:29 PM

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Jun 24, 2010 9:48 PM in response to Boro76

Hi Boro76, and a warm welcome to the forums! 🙂

First of all sorry, I'm new to this forum and unfamiliar with your etiquette so sorry again if this has been taken care of before.


Hey, no problem whatsoever, I have trouble finding anything here after all these posts... AD Search is very "iffy:.

The opening chime and fan work as usual, the first couple of times...

See if it will Safe Boot , (holding Shift key down at bootup)

PS. Safe boot may stay on the gray radian for a long time, let it go, it's trying to repair the Hard Drive

Have you checked the PRAM Battery, they can cause strange things & last 4+5 years?

Jun 25, 2010 10:37 AM in response to Boro76

As for getting to the "gear" - that could just be a corrupt directory and nothing more - in which case remove and try again.

Then, If it won't boot into Open Firmware with a good battery, consider more drastic measure.

Forced shutdown alone can cause directory corruption sufficient to prevent booting - from any CD/DVD or good drive - as long as the drive is present (put it in a FireWire case).

Most of what you are doing, might as well have burned incense.

Invest in Disk Warrior by Alsoft, and use Carbon Copy Cloner or Disk Utility Restore or SuperDuper to make backup clone you can boot from... when you have a drive.

Also try installing OS X to a new drive with no other drive present.

Jul 9, 2010 1:17 PM in response to Boro76

OK! Just tried the new battery today and the computer still freezes once I get to the grey/Apple screen and the gears start spinning. How do I go about deleting a corrupt directory if I can't even get into the computer? Or any other tips or is it completely hopeless? I have lots of stuff I would need to get from it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Feel like I've tried everything.

Jul 9, 2010 2:01 PM in response to Boro76

You must try to Repair it first.

"Try Disk Utility

1. Insert the Mac OS X Install disc, then restart the computer while holding the C key.
2. When your computer finishes starting up from the disc, choose Disk Utility from the Installer menu. (In Mac OS X 10.4 or later, you must select your language first.)
*Important: Do not click Continue in the first screen of the Installer. If you do, you must restart from the disc again to access Disk Utility.*
3. Click the First Aid tab.
4. Select your Mac OS X volume.
5. Click Repair. Disk Utility checks and repairs the disk."

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106214

Jul 9, 2010 2:14 PM in response to BDAqua

Thanks so much for the quick reply. My PowerMac doesn't seem to want to boot from the DVD. Tried it twice and although I'm pressing the right combination of keys, the load keeps going to the grey screen and freezing a few seconds into the radian wheel. The only things I see to be able to do is get into single user mode or open firmware. I tried rebooting from Single User and am getting the following messages (don't know if this will help):

USBF: 20. 99 OHCI driver: OHCIRootHubPortPower bit not sticking (0). Retrying.

and this messages repeats about 30-40 times and then everything freezes.

Once I tried to reboot after doing an fsck -fy and I got a different message before it froze. Can't seem to get it back, but there was something about PACEfamily in my library ("no such file or directory) and another line about a keychain with the wrong username password...

Any idea!?

Jul 9, 2010 2:39 PM in response to BDAqua

Yes, I get the choice, but once I select it (after two minutes of just waiting for the little watch thing to stop), it just goes back to the grey screen and freezes all over again. :S

And no, only have a MacBook as well, but no firewire... If I could get a friend to help me out, what's your tip with two computers/firewire?

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