Split Fig 8 mic input into two tracks I.E Mid/Side recording

a figure eight pattern on a mic does not output a stereo signal that can be split like that. It is a MONO signal that happens to pick up equally from both sides. You need ether a stereo mic (actually just 2 separate diaphragms in one convenient package) or 2 mics set up in a stereo configuration.

I thought you could duplicate the track and flip the phase? Using 2 mics, 1 center and the fig 8 for side. I was planning to do this on my current project, but I am still in the early stages/guitar and click.

like data said you'll need 2 mics (one facing the source and the other perpendicular to. you'll also need either a preamp (ex. true systems)that is capable of encoding a M-S signal or i suppose use the logic plugin to achieve that effect. simply putting 2 mics or copying will not do what you are wanting to do.

rick

deltonfoster wrote:
I thought you could duplicate the track and flip the phase? Using 2 mics, 1 center and the fig 8 for side.

That's a good start right there.

Check out page 123-124 of the Logic Studio Instruments and Effects.pdf installed with Logic Studio for basic info.

As has been mentioned, this will require two microphones.

One mic pointed directly at the source (like a guitar), and the figure 8 microphone set up, so that the sides of the mic that are picking up the signal on both sides (figure 8 pattern) is perpendicular to the source (guitar).

Each mic will record into a mono track into Logic, so you'll have two mono tracks when you finish recording.

Then, when finished recording, create a copy of the figure 8 mics track, and place this on a third mono track. This can easily be done in Logic by option/dragging the audio region to a new track.

Then, simply add a gainer plug-in on that third track, and hit the phase reverse button on the gainer plug-in. Make sure that the two figure 8 tracks (the original, and the copied, phase reversed one) are panned hard left and right.

The first mics track should be panned up the middle. The levels of the figure 8 track(s) should be set roughly 50% less than that of the first mono track, as a general starting point. Then adjust to taste.

harveigh wrote:
Howdy ! First post ! New to this 'zero's and 'ones' game. Anyway .How exactly do I create 2 individual tracks from a single figure 8 mic input source and phase reverse one side ? Tip -assume nothing about my skills. I.E. Dumb it down please. Harveigh ,Adelaide,Australia.

Hi,

To have two identical signals ie from your figure 8 mic, you should just have two identical audio tracks, and insert an IO plug in on BOTH channels, so Logic can compensate the PDC properly. Then just press the phase button on ONE channel only, and keep them panned hard right and left, respectively.

If you are going to do the M-S mic technique, you will also need a center microphone, which can be a cardioid pattern mic, and this one will be in the center. This one you can vary the level on to increas / decrease the apparent stereo width

Cheers

Jim explained it very well, but if some diagrams would clarify, [here's an article|http://bit.ly/cSO1jW] which should help.