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  • allanart Level 1 Level 1 (80 points)
    I can't get a decent video clip. The iMac screen is to bright an reflects on the iPhone's screen. In my G5 the iSight is not good enough (the clip I posted was done with that) I do have a Panasonic Video camera and I'm charging the battery. Hopefully I will be able to pst something showing the results. I just trying to be helpfull and I understand there are people having problems. I would have returned my phone already or get Apple to change it. When I got my 3G, I was not happy with the battery. I got it change twice...no questions, I was not happy and they took care of mme. Later I understood that the problem was how much I was using it, basically...

    BTW...It was not on launch day. "But when the CEO, on launch day, explains that one must not "hold it that way" -- then we have an obvious hardware problem. No genius required. "

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  • Dan Slocum Level 2 Level 2 (285 points)
    allanart wrote:
    I can't get a decent video clip. The iMac screen is to bright an reflects on the iPhone's screen. In my G5 the iSight is not good enough (the clip I posted was done with that) I do have a Panasonic Video camera and I'm charging the battery. Hopefully I will be able to pst something showing the results. I just trying to be helpfull and I understand there are people having problems. I would have returned my phone already or get Apple to change it. When I got my 3G, I was not happy with the battery. I got it change twice...no questions, I was not happy and they took care of mme. Later I understood that the problem was how much I was using it, basically...

    BTW...It was not on launch day. "But when the CEO, on launch day, explains that one must not "hold it that way" -- then we have an obvious hardware problem. No genius required. "


    I will take your word for it. Thanks for trying. I've yet to see an iPhone 4 that doesn't suffer signal degradation when held in the left palm for more than one minute solid.

    Using mine as an example. If I continually move the phone around (as most of the videos show) I can keep some pretty good signal strength and data speed. If I hold the problem area for more than a minute... ooooops. There she goes.

    Same story with ALL the phones at my local Apple Store. Thanks for your efforts allanart.
  • Kay M Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I LOVE my iPhone4! I have to admit, I was worried, so far so good! Hopefully, it stays that way!
  • Biggerbyte Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)
    Let me see if I have this right..

    1.) Apple says all phones do it.
    2.) 3GS was claimed to be effected.
    3:) Apple says this is a problem with
    all of their phones dating back to the first.
    4:) Apple is working on a fix.

    With all of that, somehow a handful of people
    are claiming they magically don't have any problems?
    What, is Apple, and millions of users of the iPhone 4 not
    being truthful.

    I'd be careful of videos showing no trouble. They can
    take a snapshot of their screen when things are fine
    and make it appear that their bars are not dropping by
    showing you a photo. Make them run a speedtest or
    use safari while holding the phone.
  • allanart Level 1 Level 1 (80 points)
    That's it... good luck. I'm out of here. I do not like to be call a liar. I'm NOT!
  • Dan Slocum Level 2 Level 2 (285 points)
    Biggerbyte. Most of the 'proof of good phone' videos are iPhone 4 units being juggled like a magician.

    I can keep a good signal on my phone if I continually move the unit around in my hands, thereby not covering the 'trouble spot.'

    To quote the CEO: "don't hold it that way."

    Brilliant.
  • Biggerbyte Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)
    It is just funny to me that there are
    no videos showing positive results while
    holding the phone and actually moving data.
    Run a speedtest or surf with safari showing no
    change in data transmission and I'll buy it.
  • YvilKittyInSpace Level 1 Level 1 (40 points)
    I wouldn't say it's as big of a problem with all three previous iPhones as it is with the 3GS. I have an original iPhone and a 3G sitting here. I can hold either one of those phones any way I wish and not lose the signal.

    The 3GS and iPhone 4 are the only two iPhones that I can hold in exactly the same way and the bars drop to 0 and within a few seconds, a call will drop or internet connectivity will end.
  • Dan Slocum Level 2 Level 2 (285 points)
    Biggerbyte wrote:
    It is just funny to me that there are
    no videos showing positive results while
    holding the phone and actually moving data.
    Run a speedtest or surf with safari showing no
    change in data transmission and I'll buy it.



    Good luck Biggerbyte. I've been asking for proof of data speed videos since launch day.

    Basically the fix... THE ONLY FIX... is what the CEO said on launch day. "don't hold it that way."

    That is not an acceptable answer.
  • rbrylawski Level 6 Level 6 (11,815 points)
    Good Lord Dan, what more do you need? Allanart's video is a perfect example of what his and many many other's (my 2 phones included) do. Yet, you injected that bars dropped, which they clearly didn't. You just can't accept that some people DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS with their phones. You say there are thousands upon thousands. Where do you get your numbers? From the same people like yourself who inject doom and gloom into every thread they can about their bum experience? This post was titled "My iphone 4G works perfectly!" Why on earth did you feel it was your responsibility to join this thread like every other thread to prove your point?

    You say you're a fanboy of Apple? That's nice. This is my second iPhone and I've been happy with both, but I'm not a fanboy. I'm sure as a fanboy, you must feel quite letdown if your phone is truly as bad as you say. As I've commented to you on more than one occassion, take it back if it's that bad. Return it for a new phone. Do something but whatever you do, stop raining on every thread that is started by someone who is happy with their phone.
  • Dan Slocum Level 2 Level 2 (285 points)
    rbrylawski wrote:


    "As I've commented to you on more than one occassion, take it back if it's that bad. Return it for a new phone. Do something but whatever you do, stop raining on every thread that is started by someone who is happy with their phone."





    Hi rbrylawski. I am taking it back within the 30 day window. Apple has waived the restocking fee.

    If I have an agenda, it's to get good information out there. You will find NUMEROUS examples of the problem on YouTube. There is NOT A SINGLE example of a phone working when held in the palm for more than ONE minute.

    Data speeds drop. Apps won't launch. Calls fail.

    Are you in denial or are you just out to try to annoy me? It's not working. I will continue to post facts: "just don't hold it that way" -- company CEO's quote.
  • rbrylawski Level 6 Level 6 (11,815 points)
    I must be living to annoy you Dan!! You're a broken record. You can't accept that there are people who are happy with their phones. No one is saying your phone doesn't work to your expectations. No one. But you keep telling those of us who are happy that CNN, and other major media are reporting this horrendous design flaw and expect us to share your angst, is just not going to work.

    Post your "facts" where they're perhaps more appropriate. Heck, why don't you start your own thread and call it "My iPhone is a Disappointment." I promise I won't interrupt your thread with injections of how happy I am. You have my word. Just stop trying to inject your venom in every positive thread. It's not an unreasonable request. It's really not.
  • Dan Slocum Level 2 Level 2 (285 points)
    rbrylawski wrote:
    I must be living to annoy you Dan!! You're a broken record. You can't accept that there are people who are happy with their phones. No one is saying your phone doesn't work to your expectations. No one. But you keep telling those of us who are happy that CNN, and other major media are reporting this horrendous design flaw and expect us to share your angst, is just not going to work.

    Post your "facts" where they're perhaps more appropriate. Heck, why don't you start your own thread and call it "My iPhone is a Disappointment." I promise I won't interrupt your thread with injections of how happy I am. You have my word. Just stop trying to inject your venom in every positive thread. It's not an unreasonable request. It's really not.


    video? I would love to see your data speeds when you hold the phone in your left palm. (Remember, hold it in that grip for at least a minute.) Let's look at the data speeds. Also, launch the Apple weather app after one minute, too, and see if you can open it?
  • rbrylawski Level 6 Level 6 (11,815 points)
    Again, your logic is lost on me Dan. I'm not an RF engineer. I don't measure data speeds. I don't read bars on the phone. I use the phone in the real world, not a lab. And in my world, even when I hold the phone like was demonstrated in the video just posted, the bars don't disappear. Just like they don't on his phone. Even when I hold the phone (yes, in the death grip and just to be fair to you an anyone else who says you have to hold it like that for longer than a minute, I held it for several minutes), I can access the net, listen to Pandora, check the weather and gosh of all gosh's speak to someone on the phone. So, it's academic to me Dan. Mine is so much faster than my 3G, it's like night and day. Death grip or no death grip.

    Today is my 30th Anniversary, and we went to a really nice restaurant for dinner and then to see fireworks. At the table next to me was a gentleman who could not get a signal on his new HTC Evo. Not knowing I had the iP4, he joked that if he couldn't get a signal on his phone, the new iPhone would probably be even worse. So, I got up, walked over and offered him the opportunity to make the call on my iP4 and he was just amazed that my phone was able to function so well in a location where there was clearly reduced signal. And there was clearly reducted signal as virtually no bars were showing on my phone. But my phone made a call clearly and his didn't. Who'd a thunk it? I would have.....

    Again Dan.....my phone works. I'm not going to quantify it for you. I'm not going to measure anything. I'm just going to use it in the real world and enjoy the fact that it works. Not just occassionally, but for me, it works all the time, in every location I've travelled to, with no hiccups.
  • gdgmacguy Level 6 Level 6 (19,475 points)
    You didn't video that? I'm sure Dan will want one.
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