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  • rbrylawski Level 6 Level 6
    iZian, I think many admit they see the bars drop, but many like myself don't have dropped calls. There is a significant difference. My feeling is that if the phone makes and receives calls clearly (both our iP4s do), then (at least to me), it's a non-issue.
  • sophos9 Level 1 Level 1
    BagelBacon wrote:
    you have no idea what you are talking about. please drink more of Apple's wine.


    Oh please, just so happens I design RF and software controllers for a living my friend, which puts me one step ahead of the game - I have knowledge, not an opinion
  • deftonesfool Level 1 Level 1
    sophos9 wrote:
    BagelBacon wrote:
    you have no idea what you are talking about. please drink more of Apple's wine.


    Oh please, just so happens I design RF and software controllers for a living my friend, which puts me one step ahead of the game - I have knowledge, not an opinion

    sweet, go apply for the antenna job. Let me know what other excuses you come up in a few weeks when this doesn't solve the ACTUAL issue of dropping calls when you hold a cellular phone like normal people do.

    What really makes me mad is they are placing blame on ATT AGAIN! I love the damage control. When will Apple learn to take the blame and admit this was the dumbest design ever invented.

    Message was edited by: BagelBacon
  • dhc8guru Level 1 Level 1
    I have a tendency to believe there is an error. Just holding the phone clamped with just a thumb and index finger will "degrade" the signal to no bars. Yet I have no issues with placing a call with no bars showing.
  • sophos9 Level 1 Level 1
    I already have an enjoyable job working on military spec RF comms and satellite mobile arrays. As I've stated so many times on this forum, Apples design in the RF field is excellent, many RF engineers are looking over detailed patent info to expand the concepts

    Please provide an explanation why I can signal kill most wireless/cellular devices please as per this video

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ4xWVSVLwI
  • deftonesfool Level 1 Level 1
    sophos9 wrote:
    Please provide an explanation why I can signal kill most wireless/cellular devices please as per this video

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ4xWVSVLwI

    I'm at work and can't view video streams. But if that video doesn't show the actual device killing service while on a call, and instead just shows the bars dropping, then fail.
  • goosem36 Level 1 Level 1
    I'd be a millionaire if I wrote an iViagra app to increase bar strength and sensitivity!
  • Booyah24 Level 1 Level 1
    I for one will return this phone for the following reasons. I think this is a Apple's attempt to calm down the masses by finally acknowledging that there is a problem, but they are not admitting that its a hardware design flaw. A software patch will not make this go away and I feel sorry for anyone thats hoping it will.

    Second, it was indicated that the update is a few weeks away. Well, that will put me beyond the 14day return period and will force me to keep this p.o.s. for the next 2 years. Sorry guys but this is a calculated move by Apple and AT&T to force you into a 2 year agreement with this phone. As alot of people have said, dont drink the kool-aid. The truth will come out eventually but by then you will be dead.
  • vatkins1906 Level 1 Level 1
    What about the proximity sensor issue? will the Update address this problem as well?
  • sophos9 Level 1 Level 1
    BagelBacon wrote:
    I'm at work and can't view video streams. But if that video doesn't show the actual device killing service while on a call, and instead just shows the bars dropping, then fail.


    Stick with me on this, watch when you can then post back. Its got nothing to do with failing, it shows a phone with a correctly calibrated array controller, exactly how iPhone 4 will behave once correct calibration has taken place.
  • sophos9 Level 1 Level 1
    Unknown - feels very much like a software issue so fingers crossed
  • Michael Seelye Level 1 Level 1
    Let's hope you're right Andy
  • aznewcaslte Level 1 Level 1
    This notice actually makes me worry more now. I can take a iPhone 4, showing 5 bars, and hold it until it has no service. So after the update I will just drop signal faster.
  • kaluzu Level 1 Level 1
    I do agree that the bars are showing up wrong. I know for sure, since in my house, I have several spots where I have NEVER EVER had reception, no matter what phone, on AT&T. Guess what? iP4 shows 2 bars. Better yet, on 3G. Tried to dial, as I though the new antenna is helping the reception. Guess what? Nothing happened. So the bars are misleading, at least in my case.
  • StuartDonaghy Level 1 Level 1
    I do love everyones thoughts that this a carefully orchestrated plan by Apple. At the end of the day if you weren't happy in the 1st place with it, just take it back & go back to what ever phone you were using before, be it a Nokia, 3GS or what ever & stop coming on here moaning & whining.

    The hole things makes sense to me & when you have video evidence of it happening across different iPhones, to me it screams the answer that it's a software fault.
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